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10 Jun 2009 8:00 PM
Techdewd49
I know this is a Win 2000 forum, but since there is nothing for Windows 95
hopefully someone here can help me out? 

One of my locations recently migrated to a 2003 ad enviroment and many of
their workstations are loaded with windows 95.  Here is his question:

Maryville has a number of factory PCs that connect to older equipment and
which are running Windows 95 and need access to the network. We installed DS
Client for window 95 on these PCs back when we did the AD migration and this
allowed them to login into the HI domain. Today, a user called saying that
after he changed his password he was no longer able to log in into the
Windows 95 PCs anywhere. He gets the message: “the domain password you
supplied is not correct or access to your logon server has been denied” If he
tries this too many times, his account gets locked out. Have there been any
policy changes on the DC that could be causing this? Any other accounts that
have not changed passwords are able to login without a problem. I went to
check the problem and was able to login with my admin account; then I changed
the password on my account and could not log in either after that. This can
become a critical issue since they need these legacy PCs on the network for
production.


Thanks for the help in advance!

Author
10 Jun 2009 8:15 PM
Pegasus [MVP]
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"Techdewd49" <Techdew***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:149A51B8-016F-4A33-9828-B124C0DA953C@microsoft.com...
>I know this is a Win 2000 forum, but since there is nothing for Windows 95
> hopefully someone here can help me out?
>
> One of my locations recently migrated to a 2003 ad enviroment and many of
> their workstations are loaded with windows 95.  Here is his question:
>
> Maryville has a number of factory PCs that connect to older equipment and
> which are running Windows 95 and need access to the network. We installed
> DS
> Client for window 95 on these PCs back when we did the AD migration and
> this
> allowed them to login into the HI domain. Today, a user called saying that
> after he changed his password he was no longer able to log in into the
> Windows 95 PCs anywhere. He gets the message: "the domain password you
> supplied is not correct or access to your logon server has been denied" If
> he
> tries this too many times, his account gets locked out. Have there been
> any
> policy changes on the DC that could be causing this? Any other accounts
> that
> have not changed passwords are able to login without a problem. I went to
> check the problem and was able to login with my admin account; then I
> changed
> the password on my account and could not log in either after that. This
> can
> become a critical issue since they need these legacy PCs on the network
> for
> production.
>
>
> Thanks for the help in advance!

Type this into a Google search box:
"public.win95"
"public.win98"
You will get more relevant newsgroups than you can poke a stick at. By the
way, isn't it time to replace this antiquated and unsupported operating
system with something more up-to-date and far more stable?
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Author
25 Jun 2009 1:15 PM
Techdewd49
The issue with upgrading is my admin has legacy apps that will only work with
95.

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"Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:

>
> "Techdewd49" <Techdew***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:149A51B8-016F-4A33-9828-B124C0DA953C@microsoft.com...
> >I know this is a Win 2000 forum, but since there is nothing for Windows 95
> > hopefully someone here can help me out?
> >
> > One of my locations recently migrated to a 2003 ad enviroment and many of
> > their workstations are loaded with windows 95.  Here is his question:
> >
> > Maryville has a number of factory PCs that connect to older equipment and
> > which are running Windows 95 and need access to the network. We installed
> > DS
> > Client for window 95 on these PCs back when we did the AD migration and
> > this
> > allowed them to login into the HI domain. Today, a user called saying that
> > after he changed his password he was no longer able to log in into the
> > Windows 95 PCs anywhere. He gets the message: "the domain password you
> > supplied is not correct or access to your logon server has been denied" If
> > he
> > tries this too many times, his account gets locked out. Have there been
> > any
> > policy changes on the DC that could be causing this? Any other accounts
> > that
> > have not changed passwords are able to login without a problem. I went to
> > check the problem and was able to login with my admin account; then I
> > changed
> > the password on my account and could not log in either after that. This
> > can
> > become a critical issue since they need these legacy PCs on the network
> > for
> > production.
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the help in advance!
>
> Type this into a Google search box:
> "public.win95"
> "public.win98"
> You will get more relevant newsgroups than you can poke a stick at. By the
> way, isn't it time to replace this antiquated and unsupported operating
> system with something more up-to-date and far more stable?
>
>
>
Author
25 Jun 2009 2:41 PM
Phillip Windell
I really doubt the Legacy Apps won't also run on at least Win98SE.  Most
likely they will still run on Windows2000,...and in many cases they will
even run on XP if you set the Compatibiliy Mode in the properties of the
Apps executable.

I have run many old things designed for Win95 on an XP machine.  In some
cases it was only the Apps installation program that would refuse to run and
not the App itself,...so I installed it on an old Win9x first then just
copies the File Tree over to the XP machine,...set the Compatibility to what
it needed in th eproperties of the executable and it worked.  If registry
entries are required (often they really aren't) they can be exported from
the old machine and imported into XP with Regedit via *.reg text files.

Try it rather than just taking the vendors word for it.
Also if the vendor wants to stay in business,...they need to bring their
product out of the dark ages.

--
Phillip Windell

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------



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"Techdewd49" <Techdew***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:4E24D64D-5523-47DF-93AD-48B409FC2BA2@microsoft.com...
> The issue with upgrading is my admin has legacy apps that will only work
> with
> 95.
>
> "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
>
>>
>> "Techdewd49" <Techdew***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:149A51B8-016F-4A33-9828-B124C0DA953C@microsoft.com...
>> >I know this is a Win 2000 forum, but since there is nothing for Windows
>> >95
>> > hopefully someone here can help me out?
>> >
>> > One of my locations recently migrated to a 2003 ad enviroment and many
>> > of
>> > their workstations are loaded with windows 95.  Here is his question:
>> >
>> > Maryville has a number of factory PCs that connect to older equipment
>> > and
>> > which are running Windows 95 and need access to the network. We
>> > installed
>> > DS
>> > Client for window 95 on these PCs back when we did the AD migration and
>> > this
>> > allowed them to login into the HI domain. Today, a user called saying
>> > that
>> > after he changed his password he was no longer able to log in into the
>> > Windows 95 PCs anywhere. He gets the message: "the domain password you
>> > supplied is not correct or access to your logon server has been denied"
>> > If
>> > he
>> > tries this too many times, his account gets locked out. Have there been
>> > any
>> > policy changes on the DC that could be causing this? Any other accounts
>> > that
>> > have not changed passwords are able to login without a problem. I went
>> > to
>> > check the problem and was able to login with my admin account; then I
>> > changed
>> > the password on my account and could not log in either after that. This
>> > can
>> > become a critical issue since they need these legacy PCs on the network
>> > for
>> > production.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks for the help in advance!
>>
>> Type this into a Google search box:
>> "public.win95"
>> "public.win98"
>> You will get more relevant newsgroups than you can poke a stick at. By
>> the
>> way, isn't it time to replace this antiquated and unsupported operating
>> system with something more up-to-date and far more stable?
>>
>>
>>
Author
25 Jun 2009 3:50 PM
Techdewd49
Thanks for the advise, but I'm only relaying the message of one of my admins.
I don't know his enviroment or specifically which apps he uses or why he
hasen't moved on from that archaic OS.  

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"Phillip Windell" wrote:

> I really doubt the Legacy Apps won't also run on at least Win98SE.  Most
> likely they will still run on Windows2000,...and in many cases they will
> even run on XP if you set the Compatibiliy Mode in the properties of the
> Apps executable.
>
> I have run many old things designed for Win95 on an XP machine.  In some
> cases it was only the Apps installation program that would refuse to run and
> not the App itself,...so I installed it on an old Win9x first then just
> copies the File Tree over to the XP machine,...set the Compatibility to what
> it needed in th eproperties of the executable and it worked.  If registry
> entries are required (often they really aren't) they can be exported from
> the old machine and imported into XP with Regedit via *.reg text files.
>
> Try it rather than just taking the vendors word for it.
> Also if the vendor wants to stay in business,...they need to bring their
> product out of the dark ages.
>
> --
> Phillip Windell
>
> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> "Techdewd49" <Techdew***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:4E24D64D-5523-47DF-93AD-48B409FC2BA2@microsoft.com...
> > The issue with upgrading is my admin has legacy apps that will only work
> > with
> > 95.
> >
> > "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> "Techdewd49" <Techdew***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:149A51B8-016F-4A33-9828-B124C0DA953C@microsoft.com...
> >> >I know this is a Win 2000 forum, but since there is nothing for Windows
> >> >95
> >> > hopefully someone here can help me out?
> >> >
> >> > One of my locations recently migrated to a 2003 ad enviroment and many
> >> > of
> >> > their workstations are loaded with windows 95.  Here is his question:
> >> >
> >> > Maryville has a number of factory PCs that connect to older equipment
> >> > and
> >> > which are running Windows 95 and need access to the network. We
> >> > installed
> >> > DS
> >> > Client for window 95 on these PCs back when we did the AD migration and
> >> > this
> >> > allowed them to login into the HI domain. Today, a user called saying
> >> > that
> >> > after he changed his password he was no longer able to log in into the
> >> > Windows 95 PCs anywhere. He gets the message: "the domain password you
> >> > supplied is not correct or access to your logon server has been denied"
> >> > If
> >> > he
> >> > tries this too many times, his account gets locked out. Have there been
> >> > any
> >> > policy changes on the DC that could be causing this? Any other accounts
> >> > that
> >> > have not changed passwords are able to login without a problem. I went
> >> > to
> >> > check the problem and was able to login with my admin account; then I
> >> > changed
> >> > the password on my account and could not log in either after that. This
> >> > can
> >> > become a critical issue since they need these legacy PCs on the network
> >> > for
> >> > production.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for the help in advance!
> >>
> >> Type this into a Google search box:
> >> "public.win95"
> >> "public.win98"
> >> You will get more relevant newsgroups than you can poke a stick at. By
> >> the
> >> way, isn't it time to replace this antiquated and unsupported operating
> >> system with something more up-to-date and far more stable?
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
Author
25 Jun 2009 4:10 PM
Phillip Windell
Well, you can pass my post on to him.


--
Phillip Windell

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft,
or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------

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"Techdewd49" <Techdew***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1A3EF63F-DB68-4C04-8898-324A7A4FBE16@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the advise, but I'm only relaying the message of one of my
> admins.
> I don't know his enviroment or specifically which apps he uses or why he
> hasen't moved on from that archaic OS.
>
> "Phillip Windell" wrote:
>
>> I really doubt the Legacy Apps won't also run on at least Win98SE.  Most
>> likely they will still run on Windows2000,...and in many cases they will
>> even run on XP if you set the Compatibiliy Mode in the properties of the
>> Apps executable.
>>
>> I have run many old things designed for Win95 on an XP machine.  In some
>> cases it was only the Apps installation program that would refuse to run
>> and
>> not the App itself,...so I installed it on an old Win9x first then just
>> copies the File Tree over to the XP machine,...set the Compatibility to
>> what
>> it needed in th eproperties of the executable and it worked.  If registry
>> entries are required (often they really aren't) they can be exported from
>> the old machine and imported into XP with Regedit via *.reg text files.
>>
>> Try it rather than just taking the vendors word for it.
>> Also if the vendor wants to stay in business,...they need to bring their
>> product out of the dark ages.
>>
>> --
>> Phillip Windell
>>
>> The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or
>> Microsoft,
>> or anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> "Techdewd49" <Techdew***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:4E24D64D-5523-47DF-93AD-48B409FC2BA2@microsoft.com...
>> > The issue with upgrading is my admin has legacy apps that will only
>> > work
>> > with
>> > 95.
>> >
>> > "Pegasus [MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "Techdewd49" <Techdew***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:149A51B8-016F-4A33-9828-B124C0DA953C@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I know this is a Win 2000 forum, but since there is nothing for
>> >> >Windows
>> >> >95
>> >> > hopefully someone here can help me out?
>> >> >
>> >> > One of my locations recently migrated to a 2003 ad enviroment and
>> >> > many
>> >> > of
>> >> > their workstations are loaded with windows 95.  Here is his
>> >> > question:
>> >> >
>> >> > Maryville has a number of factory PCs that connect to older
>> >> > equipment
>> >> > and
>> >> > which are running Windows 95 and need access to the network. We
>> >> > installed
>> >> > DS
>> >> > Client for window 95 on these PCs back when we did the AD migration
>> >> > and
>> >> > this
>> >> > allowed them to login into the HI domain. Today, a user called
>> >> > saying
>> >> > that
>> >> > after he changed his password he was no longer able to log in into
>> >> > the
>> >> > Windows 95 PCs anywhere. He gets the message: "the domain password
>> >> > you
>> >> > supplied is not correct or access to your logon server has been
>> >> > denied"
>> >> > If
>> >> > he
>> >> > tries this too many times, his account gets locked out. Have there
>> >> > been
>> >> > any
>> >> > policy changes on the DC that could be causing this? Any other
>> >> > accounts
>> >> > that
>> >> > have not changed passwords are able to login without a problem. I
>> >> > went
>> >> > to
>> >> > check the problem and was able to login with my admin account; then
>> >> > I
>> >> > changed
>> >> > the password on my account and could not log in either after that.
>> >> > This
>> >> > can
>> >> > become a critical issue since they need these legacy PCs on the
>> >> > network
>> >> > for
>> >> > production.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the help in advance!
>> >>
>> >> Type this into a Google search box:
>> >> "public.win95"
>> >> "public.win98"
>> >> You will get more relevant newsgroups than you can poke a stick at. By
>> >> the
>> >> way, isn't it time to replace this antiquated and unsupported
>> >> operating
>> >> system with something more up-to-date and far more stable?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
Author
25 Jun 2009 4:18 PM
Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]
"Techdewd49" <Techdew***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:1A3EF63F-DB68-4C04-8898-324A7A4FBE16@microsoft.com...
> Thanks for the advise, but I'm only relaying the message of one of my
> admins.
> I don't know his enviroment or specifically which apps he uses or why he
> hasen't moved on from that archaic OS.

Just to add, I've gotten legacy apps to run on Vista by using the
compatibility settings for the executable.

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Author
23 Jun 2009 12:41 PM
Anteaus
Your problem here is almost certainly the "Microsoft network server:
Digitally sign communications (always)" policy setting.

It's under Local Polices>Security Options.

Pre-NT OS's do not support signed communications.

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"Techdewd49" wrote:

> I know this is a Win 2000 forum, but since there is nothing for Windows 95
> hopefully someone here can help me out? 
>
> One of my locations recently migrated to a 2003 ad enviroment and many of
> their workstations are loaded with windows 95.  Here is his question:
>
> Maryville has a number of factory PCs that connect to older equipment and
> which are running Windows 95 and need access to the network. We installed DS
> Client for window 95 on these PCs back when we did the AD migration and this
> allowed them to login into the HI domain. Today, a user called saying that
> after he changed his password he was no longer able to log in into the
> Windows 95 PCs anywhere. He gets the message: “the domain password you
> supplied is not correct or access to your logon server has been denied” If he
> tries this too many times, his account gets locked out. Have there been any
> policy changes on the DC that could be causing this? Any other accounts that
> have not changed passwords are able to login without a problem. I went to
> check the problem and was able to login with my admin account; then I changed
> the password on my account and could not log in either after that. This can
> become a critical issue since they need these legacy PCs on the network for
> production.
>
>
> Thanks for the help in advance!

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