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Author
8 Dec 2008 1:02 PM
Michael Moser
How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list
/ thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis?

There are different folders that require different settings, but XP
keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred
default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And -
yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder
Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after
changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in details
mode.

Michael

Author
10 Dec 2008 8:26 AM
Terry Pinnell
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"Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote:

>How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list
>/ thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis?
>
>There are different folders that require different settings, but XP
>keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred
>default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And -
>yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder
>Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after
>changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in details
>mode.
>
>Michael

For many months I too have been trying to find the answer to that. But
I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that it's impossible. And
that Microsoft have been unable to implement such an important
facility. Or are indifferent to the issue.

Meanwhile, I waste a heck of a lot of time changing particular folders
from Detail to Thumbnail and vice versa.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
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Author
10 Dec 2008 8:31 AM
Terry Pinnell
Terry Pinnell <terrypinDEL***@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote:

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>"Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote:
>
>>How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list
>>/ thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis?
>>
>>There are different folders that require different settings, but XP
>>keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred
>>default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And -
>>yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder
>>Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after
>>changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in details
>>mode.
>>
>>Michael
>
>For many months I too have been trying to find the answer to that. But
>I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that it's impossible. And
>that Microsoft have been unable to implement such an important
>facility. Or are indifferent to the issue.
>
>Meanwhile, I waste a heck of a lot of time changing particular folders
>from Detail to Thumbnail and vice versa.

I meant to add also that I need this customization not only for
Explore/My Computer folders but for File Open & File Save As browsing
too.

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
Author
10 Dec 2008 1:00 PM
Twayne
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> "Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote:
>
>> How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon /
>> list / thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis?
>>
>> There are different folders that require different settings, but XP
>> keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my
>> preferred default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all*
>> folders). And -
>> yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in
>> Folder Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since
>> after changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in
>> details mode.
>>
>> Michael
>
> For many months I too have been trying to find the answer to that. But
> I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that it's impossible. And
> that Microsoft have been unable to implement such an important
> facility. Or are indifferent to the issue.
>
> Meanwhile, I waste a heck of a lot of time changing particular folders
> from Detail to Thumbnail and vice versa.

I haven't responded because I can't relocate the info you need.  But
maybe this will help you find it.  The "memory" for how many folders XP
can remember settings for is rather low and can be adjusted with a
registry tweak.  Perhaps this will trip someone's memory that has the
article/reference to it.

HTH

Twayne
Author
12 Dec 2008 3:08 AM
Twayne
xp folder views limit on Google gets quite a few hits; these describe
the solutions I alluded to, amongst others:

http://forum.soft32.com/win4/XP-keeping-Folder-View-options-restart-ftopict227530.html

http://windowsxp.mvps.org/folderviews.htm

Twayne



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>> "Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon /
>>> list / thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis?
>>>
>>> There are different folders that require different settings, but XP
>>> keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my
>>> preferred default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all*
>>> folders). And -
>>> yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in
>>> Folder Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since
>>> after changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in
>>> details mode.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>
>> For many months I too have been trying to find the answer to that.
>> But I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that it's impossible.
>> And that Microsoft have been unable to implement such an important
>> facility. Or are indifferent to the issue.
>>
>> Meanwhile, I waste a heck of a lot of time changing particular
>> folders from Detail to Thumbnail and vice versa.
>
> I haven't responded because I can't relocate the info you need.  But
> maybe this will help you find it.  The "memory" for how many folders
> XP can remember settings for is rather low and can be adjusted with a
> registry tweak.  Perhaps this will trip someone's memory that has the
> article/reference to it.
>
> HTH
>
> Twayne
Author
13 Dec 2008 1:29 AM
ju.c
Use this VBScript to set your folder views:

Folder View Master by MS-MVP Keith Miller (no homepage anymore)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res18hr7/FVM3.zip  or
http://members.home.nl/alsdewiedeweerga/Scripts/FVM3/FVM3.rar

Just follow its directions. If you want to master folder views too, just ask.


Related:

FileOpenPatcher from ElmuSoft enlarges the Windows Open File dialog
and sets Details view as default.

FileOpenPatcher is the successor of the famous MultiEnhancer.
FileOpenPatcher (Scroll down page)
Info:  http://www.netcult.ch/elmue/ElmueSoft-en.htm
Download Link 1:  ftp://ftp.netcult.ch/mirror/elmue/FileOpenPatcher.zip
Download Link 2:  http://electronix.ch/ptbsync/FileOpenPatcher.zip


ju.c


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"Terry Pinnell" <terrypinDEL***@THESEdial.pipex.com> wrote in message news:b0vuj41ud0vhanul6e9hjvqh1nvaoanln6@4ax.com...
> "Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote:
>
>>How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list
>>/ thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis?
>>
>>There are different folders that require different settings, but XP
>>keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred
>>default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And -
>>yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder
>>Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after
>>changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in details
>>mode.
>>
>>Michael
>
> For many months I too have been trying to find the answer to that. But
> I'm reluctantly coming to the conclusion that it's impossible. And
> that Microsoft have been unable to implement such an important
> facility. Or are indifferent to the issue.
>
> Meanwhile, I waste a heck of a lot of time changing particular folders
> from Detail to Thumbnail and vice versa.
>
> --
> Terry, East Grinstead, UK
Author
10 Dec 2008 11:30 AM
Michael Moser
Just a idea that came to my mind: maybe I once did a Tools => Folder
Options => "Apply to all folders" (namely when I defined "Details view"
as default). And maybe XP memorizes this ever since.

So, what happens if I click "Reset All Folders"? Since I have so many
bad experiences with MS SW using such global settings I am rather
reluctant to try this. Can that ruin my system or will it simply
re-allow individual folder settings?

Michael
Author
10 Dec 2008 2:00 PM
Big_Al
Michael Moser wrote:
> How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list
> / thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis?
>
> There are different folders that require different settings, but XP
> keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred
> default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And - yes
> - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder
> Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after
> changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in details mode.
>
> Michael
>

Found some info in google that indicates that yes, its a limit of the OS
as to how many directories it remembers.
If you wish, I googled "remember folder settings".
But one page suggests MS TweakUI program or this registry tweak.

<quote>
XP's Service Pack 2 changed the default from the original 400 remembered
folders to 5000. (Took them long enough to fix that problem!) Until they
made the fix, you could make the change in the registry by modifying
these two entries:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
and
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam
Creating a DWORD called BagMRU Size for each of those registry keys and
assigning it a decimal value of 5000 would fix the folder settings bug.
<quote>

Give it a try at your own risk.
Author
10 Dec 2008 6:29 PM
Terry Pinnell
Big_Al <Bi***@md.com> wrote:

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>Michael Moser wrote:
>> How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list
>> / thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis?
>>
>> There are different folders that require different settings, but XP
>> keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred
>> default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And - yes
>> - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder
>> Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after
>> changing this and later reopening the folder, it's again in details mode.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>
>Found some info in google that indicates that yes, its a limit of the OS
>as to how many directories it remembers.
>If you wish, I googled "remember folder settings".
>But one page suggests MS TweakUI program or this registry tweak.
>
><quote>
>XP's Service Pack 2 changed the default from the original 400 remembered
>folders to 5000. (Took them long enough to fix that problem!) Until they
>made the fix, you could make the change in the registry by modifying
>these two entries:
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
>and
>HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam
>Creating a DWORD called BagMRU Size for each of those registry keys and
>assigning it a decimal value of 5000 would fix the folder settings bug.
><quote>
>
>Give it a try at your own risk.

You can also change it using TweakUI > Explorer > Customizations. Mine
is set to 5,000.

But that doesn't solve either of the problems here.

1. Folders don't consistently open in a My Computer window in the same
view mode as previously.

2. File Open and File Save As views are not consistently the same as
a) Previously
b) The corresponding My Computer folder view

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
Author
12 Dec 2008 2:56 AM
Twayne
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> Big_Al <Bi***@md.com> wrote:
>
>> Michael Moser wrote:
>>> How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon /
>>> list / thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis?
>>>
>>> There are different folders that require different settings, but XP
>>> keeps showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my
>>> preferred default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all*
>>> folders). And - yes - I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view
>>> settings" in Folder Options => View-tab set, but that's obviously
>>> ignored, since after changing this and later reopening the folder,
>>> it's again in details mode.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>
>> Found some info in google that indicates that yes, its a limit of
>> the OS as to how many directories it remembers.
>> If you wish, I googled "remember folder settings".
>> But one page suggests MS TweakUI program or this registry tweak.
>>
>> <quote>
>> XP's Service Pack 2 changed the default from the original 400
>> remembered folders to 5000. (Took them long enough to fix that
>> problem!) Until they made the fix, you could make the change in the
>> registry by modifying these two entries:
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
>> and
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam
>> Creating a DWORD called BagMRU Size for each of those registry keys
>> and assigning it a decimal value of 5000 would fix the folder
>> settings bug. <quote>
>>
>> Give it a try at your own risk.
>
> You can also change it using TweakUI > Explorer > Customizations. Mine
> is set to 5,000.
>
> But that doesn't solve either of the problems here.
>
> 1. Folders don't consistently open in a My Computer window in the same
> view mode as previously.
>
> 2. File Open and File Save As views are not consistently the same as
> a) Previously
> b) The corresponding My Computer folder view

How so? Those sound just like the symptoms I had years ago.  Folders it
remembered worked OK sometimes, not at others if someting pushed them
along in the buffer & so forth I guess; it's been a long time.  It
wasn't exactly a FIFO or a FILO organization, but interspersed itself
somehow on the buffer.  MS had a KB article on it, but I still can't
seem to locat it.

Just curious,
\
Twayne
Author
13 Dec 2008 5:12 AM
a_nonymous
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"Terry Pinnell" wrote:
> ...
> MS TweakUI program or this registry tweak.
....
>> XP's Service Pack 2 changed the default from the
>> original 400 remembered folders to 5000.
> ...
> you could make the change in the registry by modifying
>> these two entries:
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
>> and
>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam
>> Creating a DWORD called BagMRU Size for each of those registry keys and
>> assigning it a decimal value of 5000 would fix the folder settings bug.
> ...
> You can also change it using TweakUI > Explorer > Customizations.
> Mine is set to 5,000.
> But that doesn't solve either of the problems here.

Terry,
TweakUI v2.10 for XP is broken. It incorrectly operates on
'Bag MRU Size' instead of 'BagMRU Size'. Edit the registry another way.
Author
15 Dec 2008 10:34 PM
Terry Pinnell
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"a_nonymous" <anonym***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>
>"Terry Pinnell" wrote:
>> ...
>> MS TweakUI program or this registry tweak.
>...
>>> XP's Service Pack 2 changed the default from the
>>> original 400 remembered folders to 5000.
>> ...
>> you could make the change in the registry by modifying
>>> these two entries:
>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
>>> and
>>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam
>>> Creating a DWORD called BagMRU Size for each of those registry keys and
>>> assigning it a decimal value of 5000 would fix the folder settings bug.
>> ...
>> You can also change it using TweakUI > Explorer > Customizations.
>> Mine is set to 5,000.
>> But that doesn't solve either of the problems here.
>
>Terry,
> TweakUI v2.10 for XP is broken. It incorrectly operates on
>'Bag MRU Size' instead of 'BagMRU Size'. Edit the registry another way.
>

Thanks. Just checked and see that both keys contain *both* entries,
each set to 5000. Is 'Bag MRU Size' redundant?

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK
Author
20 Dec 2008 9:31 AM
a_nonymous
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> >"Terry Pinnell" wrote:
> >> ...
> >> MS TweakUI program or this registry tweak.
> >...
> >>> XP's Service Pack 2 changed the default from the
> >>> original 400 remembered folders to 5000.
> >> ...
> >> you could make the change in the registry by modifying
> >>> these two entries:
> >>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell
> >>> and
> >>> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam
> >>> Creating a DWORD called BagMRU Size for each of those registry keys and
> >>> assigning it a decimal value of 5000 would fix the folder settings bug.
> >> ...
> >> You can also change it using TweakUI > Explorer > Customizations.
> >> Mine is set to 5,000.
> >> But that doesn't solve either of the problems here.

> "a_nonymous" wrote:
> >Terry,
> > TweakUI v2.10 for XP is broken. It incorrectly operates on
> >'Bag MRU Size' instead of 'BagMRU Size'. Edit the registry another way.

"Terry Pinnell" wrote:
> Thanks. Just checked and see that both keys contain *both* entries,
> each set to 5000. Is 'Bag MRU Size' redundant?

Terry,
Yes, 'Bag MRU Size' is redundant.
Author
10 Dec 2008 6:49 PM
Nepatsfan
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"Michael Moser" <michael-nospam.moser@nospam.freesurf.ch> wrote in message
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> How can one convince XP to memorize the view settings (i.e. icon / list /
> thumbnails / etc.) on a per folder basis?
>
> There are different folders that require different settings, but XP keeps
> showing me everything as detailed list (while this is my preferred
> default, it is definitely not the optimum for *all* folders). And - yes -
> I *DO* have the "Remember each folder's view settings" in Folder Options
> => View-tab set, but that's obviously ignored, since after changing this
> and later reopening the folder, it's again in details mode.
>
> Michael
>


There's a script available from this web site that you might find helpful.

Folder ViewMasterIII
http://home.mchsi.com/~k.miller79/

Direct download

http://home.mchsi.com/~k.miller79/Scripts/FVM3.zip

Good luck

Nepatsfan

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