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Author
5 Oct 2008 5:19 PM
Poster Kris
Hello,

I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2.  Just recently the file/folder list stopped
sorting properly in the file-open dialog box.
This only occurs in certain applications.  For instance, MS Office apps
don't have this problem (they uses a different object?).

Is there a Windows registry key that controls this?
If so, what is it and what should the default value(s) be set to to restore
it to sort on NAME in ascending order.

Or maybe I should just ask this: is there a way to simply restore all of
Windows defaults?  When I created a new 'dummy' user and tested it the
problem was gone.

thanks

Regards

Kris

Author
5 Oct 2008 5:13 PM
Ken Blake, MVP
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 09:19:28 -0800, "Poster Kris"
<kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote:

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> Hello,
>
> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2.  Just recently the file/folder list stopped
> sorting properly in the file-open dialog box.
> This only occurs in certain applications.  For instance, MS Office apps
> don't have this problem (they uses a different object?).
>
> Is there a Windows registry key that controls this?
> If so, what is it and what should the default value(s) be set to to restore
> it to sort on NAME in ascending order.
>
> Or maybe I should just ask this: is there a way to simply restore all of
> Windows defaults?  When I created a new 'dummy' user and tested it the
> problem was gone.


Are you aware that you can change the sort order by clicking on the
heading at the top of the field you want to sort on? Click that
heading a second time to reverse the sort order from ascending to
descending, or vice versa, whichever you are sorted on.

Is there a possibility that you are having your problem because you
have accidentally done this? Or some other user of your computer has
done it on purpose in those applications?

--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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Author
7 Oct 2008 12:25 AM
Poster Kris
Thanks Ken,

Yes, I'm aware of the various ways of changing the sort-detail.
Unfortunately, it doesn't retain this and I have to keep redoing it every
time I open a subfolder.

thanks again for your input.
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"Ken Blake, MVP" <kbl***@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 09:19:28 -0800, "Poster Kris"
> <kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2.  Just recently the file/folder list
>> stopped
>> sorting properly in the file-open dialog box.
>> This only occurs in certain applications.  For instance, MS Office apps
>> don't have this problem (they uses a different object?).
>>
>> Is there a Windows registry key that controls this?
>> If so, what is it and what should the default value(s) be set to to
>> restore
>> it to sort on NAME in ascending order.
>>
>> Or maybe I should just ask this: is there a way to simply restore all of
>> Windows defaults?  When I created a new 'dummy' user and tested it the
>> problem was gone.
>
>
> Are you aware that you can change the sort order by clicking on the
> heading at the top of the field you want to sort on? Click that
> heading a second time to reverse the sort order from ascending to
> descending, or vice versa, whichever you are sorted on.
>
> Is there a possibility that you are having your problem because you
> have accidentally done this? Or some other user of your computer has
> done it on purpose in those applications?
>
> --
> Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> Please Reply to the Newsgroup
Author
6 Oct 2008 11:42 PM
Ken Blake, MVP
On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 16:25:37 -0800, "Poster Kris"
<kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote:

> Thanks Ken,
>
> Yes, I'm aware of the various ways of changing the sort-detail.
> Unfortunately, it doesn't retain this and I have to keep redoing it every
> time I open a subfolder.
>
> thanks again for your input.


You're welcome. Sorry my guess wasn't the problem.



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> "Ken Blake, MVP" <kbl***@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:28the4d7o6ksk7akubde6q6kafqligt0d5@4ax.com...
> > On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 09:19:28 -0800, "Poster Kris"
> > <kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2.  Just recently the file/folder list
> >> stopped
> >> sorting properly in the file-open dialog box.
> >> This only occurs in certain applications.  For instance, MS Office apps
> >> don't have this problem (they uses a different object?).
> >>
> >> Is there a Windows registry key that controls this?
> >> If so, what is it and what should the default value(s) be set to to
> >> restore
> >> it to sort on NAME in ascending order.
> >>
> >> Or maybe I should just ask this: is there a way to simply restore all of
> >> Windows defaults?  When I created a new 'dummy' user and tested it the
> >> problem was gone.
> >
> >
> > Are you aware that you can change the sort order by clicking on the
> > heading at the top of the field you want to sort on? Click that
> > heading a second time to reverse the sort order from ascending to
> > descending, or vice versa, whichever you are sorted on.
> >
> > Is there a possibility that you are having your problem because you
> > have accidentally done this? Or some other user of your computer has
> > done it on purpose in those applications?
> >
> > --
> > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
> > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
>

--
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Author
5 Oct 2008 10:42 PM
Barry Schwarz
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 09:19:28 -0800, "Poster Kris"
<kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote:

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>Hello,
>
>I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2.  Just recently the file/folder list stopped
>sorting properly in the file-open dialog box.
>This only occurs in certain applications.  For instance, MS Office apps
>don't have this problem (they uses a different object?).
>
>Is there a Windows registry key that controls this?
>If so, what is it and what should the default value(s) be set to to restore
>it to sort on NAME in ascending order.
>
>Or maybe I should just ask this: is there a way to simply restore all of
>Windows defaults?  When I created a new 'dummy' user and tested it the
>problem was gone.

Several Office applications (and probably others) default to sort as
they see fit.  It seems to be close to "most recently used by this
application".  You can change the order once the Open dialog has
started by clicking on the "views" icon, selecting details, sorting
the resulting display as desired by clicking once or twice on the
column heading, clicking the views icon again, and selecting list.

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Author
6 Oct 2008 11:01 AM
ju.c
Create and merge this registry file to correct the Sort Order problem:


1. Copy below and paste into Notepad:

----------copy inside only----------
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
"ShellState"=hex:24,00,00,00,33,80,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
  01,00,00,00,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00

----------copy inside only----------

2. Save-as SortOrder.reg (or any name + .reg)

3. Double-click or right-click and merge into the registry.

4. Restart your computer.

5. If that did not work, try this one (repeat steps 1-4):

----------copy inside only----------
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
"ShellState"=hex:24,00,00,00,3c,28,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
  01,00,00,00,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00

----------copy inside only----------


ju.c


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"Poster Kris" <kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote in message news:eQQBDYwJJHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Hello,
>
> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2.  Just recently the file/folder list stopped
> sorting properly in the file-open dialog box.
> This only occurs in certain applications.  For instance, MS Office apps
> don't have this problem (they uses a different object?).
>
> Is there a Windows registry key that controls this?
> If so, what is it and what should the default value(s) be set to to restore
> it to sort on NAME in ascending order.
>
> Or maybe I should just ask this: is there a way to simply restore all of
> Windows defaults?  When I created a new 'dummy' user and tested it the
> problem was gone.
>
> thanks
>
> Regards
>
> Kris
>
>
Author
7 Oct 2008 12:30 AM
Poster Kris
Thanks for the info.  I tried both reg fixes and it's still not working, but
you've got me started in the right direction.  I needed to know the reg key
that controlled this.

thanks again
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"ju.c" <bibidybubidyb***@mailnator.com> wrote in message
news:ePZutL6JJHA.3644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Create and merge this registry file to correct the Sort Order problem:
>
>
> 1. Copy below and paste into Notepad:
>
> ----------copy inside only----------
> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
> "ShellState"=hex:24,00,00,00,33,80,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
>  01,00,00,00,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
>
> ----------copy inside only----------
>
> 2. Save-as SortOrder.reg (or any name + .reg)
>
> 3. Double-click or right-click and merge into the registry.
>
> 4. Restart your computer.
>
> 5. If that did not work, try this one (repeat steps 1-4):
>
> ----------copy inside only----------
> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
> "ShellState"=hex:24,00,00,00,3c,28,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
>  01,00,00,00,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00
>
> ----------copy inside only----------
>
>
> ju.c
>
>
> "Poster Kris" <kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:eQQBDYwJJHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2.  Just recently the file/folder list
>> stopped
>> sorting properly in the file-open dialog box.
>> This only occurs in certain applications.  For instance, MS Office apps
>> don't have this problem (they uses a different object?).
>>
>> Is there a Windows registry key that controls this?
>> If so, what is it and what should the default value(s) be set to to
>> restore
>> it to sort on NAME in ascending order.
>>
>> Or maybe I should just ask this: is there a way to simply restore all of
>> Windows defaults?  When I created a new 'dummy' user and tested it the
>> problem was gone.
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Kris
Author
7 Oct 2008 1:54 PM
ju.c
I don't know if one of these will correct it but they're the best
way to manage folder views.

Use this VBScript to set your folder views:
Folder View Master by MS-MVP Keith Miller (no homepage anymore)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res18hr7/FVM3.zip  or
http://members.home.nl/alsdewiedeweerga/Scripts/FVM3/FVM3.rar
Just follow its directions. If you want to master folder views too, just ask.


FileOpenPatcher from ElmuSoft enlarges the Windows Open File dialog
and sets Details view as default.
FileOpenPatcher is the successor of the famous MultiEnhancer.
FileOpenPatcher (Scroll down page)
Info:  http://www.netcult.ch/elmue/ElmueSoft-en.htm
Download Link 1:  ftp://ftp.netcult.ch/mirror/elmue/FileOpenPatcher.zip
Download Link 2:  http://electronix.ch/ptbsync/FileOpenPatcher.zip


ju.c


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"Poster Kris" <kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote in message news:uSqbYtAKJHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the info.  I tried both reg fixes and it's still not working, but
> you've got me started in the right direction.  I needed to know the reg key
> that controlled this.
>
> thanks again
> "ju.c" <bibidybubidyb***@mailnator.com> wrote in message
> news:ePZutL6JJHA.3644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Create and merge this registry file to correct the Sort Order problem:
>>
>>
>> 1. Copy below and paste into Notepad:
>>
>> ----------copy inside only----------
>> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>>
>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
>> "ShellState"=hex:24,00,00,00,33,80,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
>>  01,00,00,00,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
>>
>> ----------copy inside only----------
>>
>> 2. Save-as SortOrder.reg (or any name + .reg)
>>
>> 3. Double-click or right-click and merge into the registry.
>>
>> 4. Restart your computer.
>>
>> 5. If that did not work, try this one (repeat steps 1-4):
>>
>> ----------copy inside only----------
>> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>>
>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
>> "ShellState"=hex:24,00,00,00,3c,28,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
>>  01,00,00,00,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00
>>
>> ----------copy inside only----------
>>
>>
>> ju.c
>>
>>
>> "Poster Kris" <kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:eQQBDYwJJHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2.  Just recently the file/folder list
>>> stopped
>>> sorting properly in the file-open dialog box.
>>> This only occurs in certain applications.  For instance, MS Office apps
>>> don't have this problem (they uses a different object?).
>>>
>>> Is there a Windows registry key that controls this?
>>> If so, what is it and what should the default value(s) be set to to
>>> restore
>>> it to sort on NAME in ascending order.
>>>
>>> Or maybe I should just ask this: is there a way to simply restore all of
>>> Windows defaults?  When I created a new 'dummy' user and tested it the
>>> problem was gone.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Kris
>
>
Author
9 Oct 2008 9:39 PM
Poster Kris
ju.c,

The FileOpenPatcher apparently reset the correct reg settings.  It's
working!

Cheers and thanks again

Kris
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"ju.c" <bibidybubidyb***@mailnator.com> wrote in message
news:ewH1FRIKJHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>I don't know if one of these will correct it but they're the best way to
>manage folder views.
>
> Use this VBScript to set your folder views:
> Folder View Master by MS-MVP Keith Miller (no homepage anymore)
> http://mysite.verizon.net/res18hr7/FVM3.zip  or
> http://members.home.nl/alsdewiedeweerga/Scripts/FVM3/FVM3.rar
> Just follow its directions. If you want to master folder views too, just
> ask.
>
>
> FileOpenPatcher from ElmuSoft enlarges the Windows Open File dialog and
> sets Details view as default.
> FileOpenPatcher is the successor of the famous MultiEnhancer.
> FileOpenPatcher (Scroll down page)
> Info:  http://www.netcult.ch/elmue/ElmueSoft-en.htm
> Download Link 1:  ftp://ftp.netcult.ch/mirror/elmue/FileOpenPatcher.zip
> Download Link 2:  http://electronix.ch/ptbsync/FileOpenPatcher.zip
>
>
> ju.c
>
>
> "Poster Kris" <kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:uSqbYtAKJHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Thanks for the info.  I tried both reg fixes and it's still not working,
>> but you've got me started in the right direction.  I needed to know the
>> reg key that controlled this.
>>
>> thanks again
>> "ju.c" <bibidybubidyb***@mailnator.com> wrote in message
>> news:ePZutL6JJHA.3644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Create and merge this registry file to correct the Sort Order problem:
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Copy below and paste into Notepad:
>>>
>>> ----------copy inside only----------
>>> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>>>
>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
>>> "ShellState"=hex:24,00,00,00,33,80,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
>>>  01,00,00,00,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
>>>
>>> ----------copy inside only----------
>>>
>>> 2. Save-as SortOrder.reg (or any name + .reg)
>>>
>>> 3. Double-click or right-click and merge into the registry.
>>>
>>> 4. Restart your computer.
>>>
>>> 5. If that did not work, try this one (repeat steps 1-4):
>>>
>>> ----------copy inside only----------
>>> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>>>
>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
>>> "ShellState"=hex:24,00,00,00,3c,28,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
>>>  01,00,00,00,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00
>>>
>>> ----------copy inside only----------
>>>
>>>
>>> ju.c
>>>
>>>
>>> "Poster Kris" <kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eQQBDYwJJHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2.  Just recently the file/folder list
>>>> stopped
>>>> sorting properly in the file-open dialog box.
>>>> This only occurs in certain applications.  For instance, MS Office apps
>>>> don't have this problem (they uses a different object?).
>>>>
>>>> Is there a Windows registry key that controls this?
>>>> If so, what is it and what should the default value(s) be set to to
>>>> restore
>>>> it to sort on NAME in ascending order.
>>>>
>>>> Or maybe I should just ask this: is there a way to simply restore all
>>>> of Windows defaults?  When I created a new 'dummy' user and tested it
>>>> the problem was gone.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Kris
>>
Author
10 Oct 2008 10:04 AM
ju.c
Thanks for the feedback.

You're welcome.


ju.c


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"Poster Kris" <kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote in message news:#dmpy7kKJHA.1012@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> ju.c,
>
> The FileOpenPatcher apparently reset the correct reg settings.  It's
> working!
>
> Cheers and thanks again
>
> Kris
> "ju.c" <bibidybubidyb***@mailnator.com> wrote in message
> news:ewH1FRIKJHA.2208@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I don't know if one of these will correct it but they're the best way to
>>manage folder views.
>>
>> Use this VBScript to set your folder views:
>> Folder View Master by MS-MVP Keith Miller (no homepage anymore)
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/res18hr7/FVM3.zip  or
>> http://members.home.nl/alsdewiedeweerga/Scripts/FVM3/FVM3.rar
>> Just follow its directions. If you want to master folder views too, just
>> ask.
>>
>>
>> FileOpenPatcher from ElmuSoft enlarges the Windows Open File dialog and
>> sets Details view as default.
>> FileOpenPatcher is the successor of the famous MultiEnhancer.
>> FileOpenPatcher (Scroll down page)
>> Info:  http://www.netcult.ch/elmue/ElmueSoft-en.htm
>> Download Link 1:  ftp://ftp.netcult.ch/mirror/elmue/FileOpenPatcher.zip
>> Download Link 2:  http://electronix.ch/ptbsync/FileOpenPatcher.zip
>>
>>
>> ju.c
>>
>>
>> "Poster Kris" <kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:uSqbYtAKJHA.5060@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Thanks for the info.  I tried both reg fixes and it's still not working,
>>> but you've got me started in the right direction.  I needed to know the
>>> reg key that controlled this.
>>>
>>> thanks again
>>> "ju.c" <bibidybubidyb***@mailnator.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ePZutL6JJHA.3644@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>> Create and merge this registry file to correct the Sort Order problem:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. Copy below and paste into Notepad:
>>>>
>>>> ----------copy inside only----------
>>>> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>>>>
>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
>>>> "ShellState"=hex:24,00,00,00,33,80,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
>>>>  01,00,00,00,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00
>>>>
>>>> ----------copy inside only----------
>>>>
>>>> 2. Save-as SortOrder.reg (or any name + .reg)
>>>>
>>>> 3. Double-click or right-click and merge into the registry.
>>>>
>>>> 4. Restart your computer.
>>>>
>>>> 5. If that did not work, try this one (repeat steps 1-4):
>>>>
>>>> ----------copy inside only----------
>>>> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>>>>
>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
>>>> "ShellState"=hex:24,00,00,00,3c,28,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,\
>>>>  01,00,00,00,0d,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,02,00,00,00
>>>>
>>>> ----------copy inside only----------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ju.c
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Poster Kris" <kristoph***@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eQQBDYwJJHA.3976@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm running Windows XP Pro SP2.  Just recently the file/folder list
>>>>> stopped
>>>>> sorting properly in the file-open dialog box.
>>>>> This only occurs in certain applications.  For instance, MS Office apps
>>>>> don't have this problem (they uses a different object?).
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a Windows registry key that controls this?
>>>>> If so, what is it and what should the default value(s) be set to to
>>>>> restore
>>>>> it to sort on NAME in ascending order.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or maybe I should just ask this: is there a way to simply restore all
>>>>> of Windows defaults?  When I created a new 'dummy' user and tested it
>>>>> the problem was gone.
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Kris
>>>
>

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