"D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
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> If CCleaner competently CLEANS the Registry and Perfect Disc 8.0 will
> competently COMPRESS the Registry, I see little use for NT Registry Optimizer.
>
> DSH
>
> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>

" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>
wrote in message news:%23bcRseLIIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> compressing a file for
> archiving is not the same
> as compressing the registry
> for optimization.  these
> are 2 separate and unique
> processes.
>
> --
>
> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>

> "D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
> news:uPx7V4KIIHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> If CCleaner competently CLEANS the Registry and Perfect Disc 8.0 will
>> competently COMPRESS the Registry, I see little use for NT Registry
>> Optimizer.
>>
>> DSH
>>
>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
news:uKaxSzLIIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Perfect Disc allegedly compresses ALL files on the hard disk.
>
> No?
>
> Not The Registry?
>
> I asked that question earlier and got an impudent answer from a pogue.
>
> DSH
>
> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>
> wrote in message news:%23bcRseLIIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> compressing a file for
>> archiving is not the same
>> as compressing the registry
>> for optimization.  these
>> are 2 separate and unique
>> processes.
>>
>> --
>>
>> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
>>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
>> "D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
>> news:uPx7V4KIIHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
>>> If CCleaner competently CLEANS the Registry and Perfect Disc 8.0 will
>>> competently COMPRESS the Registry, I see little use for NT Registry
>>> Optimizer.
>>>
>>> DSH
>>>
>>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>
>

" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>
wrote in message news:uLCxlaMIIHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...

> its a little hard to
> explain.
>
> when a utility archives
> data, it compresses it
> into a small package
> using an algorithm, similar
> to zipping.   for a degree
> of clarity, lets say that
> this method compresses
> files and folders.
>
> however, at times optimizing a
> database file is also referred to
> as compressing.
>
> but for maintaining a degree of
> clarity, compacting is a better
> term to use.    compacting is a method
> optimize a database file(s).   this method
> only involves the data / information
> "inside" the database file.
>
> when compacting a database
> file, you are eseentially removing
> records that are bad, blank,
> duplicated, triplicated, useless,
> worthless, etc...     this kind of
> crap not only inflates the database
> file which results in more fragments
> all over the disk.    the unusable
> data/information is also counterproductive
> and will eventually corrupt the
> database and the information
> inside it as well.
>
> when compacting / optimizing
> a database you are not converting the data
> into a compressed archive or zip
> file.
>
> here is alink with some information
> on compression and compaction:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_compression
>
> http://www.vb123.com/workbench/help/compact.htm
>
> however, there are hybrids  like accounting databases.
> most all accounting softwares are designed  to
> compact/optimize then compress the database file
> and then encrypt it as well.
>
> another point is that when zipping / compressing
> a database file for archiving, it is best to compact
> it and remove all the junk out of it first.
>
> but it isn't necessary since the zipping
> algorithm is indiscriminate and will
> compress junk and crap along with
> the valuable data.
>
> lastly, if the term "compact" wasn't used
> in the above, then there would be
> a lot of confusion when one says,
> i need to compress the database
> file before compressing it for
> archiving.
>
>
> --
>
> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>
>
> .
>
>
> "D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
> news:uKaxSzLIIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...

>> Perfect Disc allegedly compresses ALL files on the hard disk.
>>
>> No?
>>
>> Not The Registry?
>>
>> I asked that question earlier and got an impudent answer from a pogue.
>>
>> DSH
>>
>> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>
>> wrote in message news:%23bcRseLIIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> compressing a file for
>>> archiving is not the same
>>> as compressing the registry
>>> for optimization.  these
>>> are 2 separate and unique
>>> processes.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
>>>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>
>>> "D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
>>> news:uPx7V4KIIHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>>>> If CCleaner competently CLEANS the Registry and Perfect Disc 8.0 will
>>>> competently COMPRESS the Registry, I see little use for NT Registry
>>>> Optimizer.
>>>>
>>>> DSH
>>>>
>>>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas

"D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
news:uc786RNIIHA.5400@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> O.K.
>
> Thank you.
>
> When I use Perfect Disk 8.0 which process am I using?
>
> When I use NT Registry Optimizer which process am I using?
>
> Are both required for best results?
>
> DSH
>
> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com> wrote
> in message news:uLCxlaMIIHA.1324@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>
>> its a little hard to
>> explain.
>>
>> when a utility archives
>> data, it compresses it
>> into a small package
>> using an algorithm, similar
>> to zipping.   for a degree
>> of clarity, lets say that
>> this method compresses
>> files and folders.
>>
>> however, at times optimizing a
>> database file is also referred to
>> as compressing.
>>
>> but for maintaining a degree of
>> clarity, compacting is a better
>> term to use.    compacting is a method
>> optimize a database file(s).   this method
>> only involves the data / information
>> "inside" the database file.
>>
>> when compacting a database
>> file, you are eseentially removing
>> records that are bad, blank,
>> duplicated, triplicated, useless,
>> worthless, etc...     this kind of
>> crap not only inflates the database
>> file which results in more fragments
>> all over the disk.    the unusable
>> data/information is also counterproductive
>> and will eventually corrupt the
>> database and the information
>> inside it as well.
>>
>> when compacting / optimizing
>> a database you are not converting the data
>> into a compressed archive or zip
>> file.
>>
>> here is alink with some information
>> on compression and compaction:
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_compression
>>
>> http://www.vb123.com/workbench/help/compact.htm
>>
>> however, there are hybrids  like accounting databases.
>> most all accounting softwares are designed  to
>> compact/optimize then compress the database file
>> and then encrypt it as well.
>>
>> another point is that when zipping / compressing
>> a database file for archiving, it is best to compact
>> it and remove all the junk out of it first.
>>
>> but it isn't necessary since the zipping
>> algorithm is indiscriminate and will
>> compress junk and crap along with
>> the valuable data.
>>
>> lastly, if the term "compact" wasn't used
>> in the above, then there would be
>> a lot of confusion when one says,
>> i need to compress the database
>> file before compressing it for
>> archiving.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
>>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>>
>> "D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
>> news:uKaxSzLIIHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>
>>> Perfect Disc allegedly compresses ALL files on the hard disk.
>>>
>>> No?
>>>
>>> Not The Registry?
>>>
>>> I asked that question earlier and got an impudent answer from a pogue.
>>>
>>> DSH
>>>
>>> " db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>
>>> wrote in message news:%23bcRseLIIHA.1204@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> compressing a file for
>>>> archiving is not the same
>>>> as compressing the registry
>>>> for optimization.  these
>>>> are 2 separate and unique
>>>> processes.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>¸.
>>>>><)))º>·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. ><)))º>`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸><)))º>
>>>
>>>> "D. Spencer Hines" <pant***@excelsior.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uPx7V4KIIHA.284@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>> If CCleaner competently CLEANS the Registry and Perfect Disc 8.0 will
>>>>> competently COMPRESS the Registry, I see little use for NT Registry
>>>>> Optimizer.
>>>>>
>>>>> DSH
>>>>>
>>>>> Lux et Veritas et Libertas
>
>

" db ´¯`·.. ><)))º>` .. ." <databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com>
wrote in message news:etKuTtNIIHA.4592@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>
> ntregopt and perfect disk
> both compact data but
> on different levels.
>
> ntregopt only compacts
> data inside "a" registry
> database file.
>
> ntregopt does not compact
> files and perfectdisk does
> not compact data inside files.
>
> so if a file is full of bad data,
> perfect disk job is not to evaluate
> the data inside a file.
>
> Instead its job is to make
> fragmented files whole
> again and then cluster the whole
> files nice and neat for quicker
> access.
>
> in regards to performance:
> any thing that provides some
> benefit, no matter how small,
> all contribute towards the overall
> performance.