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Customizing User Profiles in Control Panel1) I have four folders in my C:\Documents and Settings folder: a) Administrator, b) All Users, c) [my full name- which is the account that I previously set to automatically come up and use, having full Administration rights], and d) Default User. Now, in Control Panel\User Profiles, the only account that I set up was "b)"; there appears only two icons also, one for my "b)" account, and one for "Guest User" account. Based on this: a) Can I go ahead and delete all the folders in my C:\Documents and Settings folder, except for the one I'm using, i.e. folder "b)"? b) I tried to make an account for the "a)" folder in the C:\Documents and Settings folder in Control Panel\User Profles; however, when I try to name the account "Administrator", I get a message that this account already exists; I know that the folder exists in the C:\Documents and Settings folder, but not in Control Panel\User Profiles. Why is this happening, and how to I fix this? 2) In My Microsoft HELP in my Windows XP Pro, there it states that there is a way to facilitate CRTL + ALT + DEL when I want a user to log into my computer, i.e to go to CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILES, and click on the advanced tab; however, when I go there, no ADVANCED tab exits. Can you tell me why, and what I can do to obtain this log in functionality? 3) Finally, can you refer me to an article that covers all the basics on this issue? Thank you so much. Ben J. See inline.
--- Leonard Grey Errare humanum est Ben wrote: > Ok. I have a few items if you can share them with me: All Users and the Default User are created by Windows. Do not remove > > 1) I have four folders in my C:\Documents and Settings folder: a) > Administrator, b) All Users, c) [my full name- which is the account that I > previously set to automatically come up and use, having full Administration > rights], and d) Default User. Now, in Control Panel\User Profiles, the only > account that I set up was "b)"; there appears only two icons also, one for my > "b)" account, and one for "Guest User" account. Based on this: > > a) Can I go ahead and delete all the folders in my C:\Documents and Settings > folder, except for the one I'm using, i.e. folder "b)"? them or move them. Do not alter them in any way until you know exactly what you are doing. All Users contains desktop settings that will apply to all user accounts that you create, e.g., which shortcuts will appear in the Start menu and which Favorites will be included in Internet Explorer. The Default User account contains all the default configuration settings that will apply whenever a new user account is created. Administrator does not normally appear in Documents and Settings unless you previously used the built-in Administrator account (which you should /not/ do unless all other accounts with Administrator permissions are broken.) Definitely *do not* touch this account. The only accounts that appear in the control panel applet are the user accounts, e.g., the account(s) you created when you first installed Windows, the Guest account and any other user accounts subsequently created. The control panel applet does not pertain to system accounts (like Administrator, All Users and the Default User.) > I don't know what "facilitate CRTL + ALT + DEL when I want a user to log > b) I tried to make an account for the "a)" folder in the C:\Documents and > Settings folder in Control Panel\User Profles; however, when I try to name > the account "Administrator", I get a message that this account already > exists; I know that the folder exists in the C:\Documents and Settings > folder, but not in Control Panel\User Profiles. Why is this happening, and > how to I fix this? > > 2) In My Microsoft HELP in my Windows XP Pro, there it states that there is > a way to facilitate CRTL + ALT + DEL when I want a user to log into my > computer, i.e to go to CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILES, and click on the advanced > tab; however, when I go there, no ADVANCED tab exits. Can you tell me why, > and what I can do to obtain this log in functionality? into my computer" means. I'll try to guess what you're referring to: There are two ways to login to an account in Windows XP. If you choose to use the Welcome Screen, users see a the name of their account displayed on the screen with a cute graphic next to it. All they need to do is to select their account and enter the password. For enhanced security you choose to /not/ use the Welcome Screen, in which case users have to press CTRL+ALT+DEL to start the login process and then enter /both/ their user name and the correct password. > May I suggest Google?> 3) Finally, can you refer me to an article that covers all the basics on > this issue? Show quote > > Thank you so much. Ben J. Thank you so much. Let me see if I understand this: I have WXP Pro; based on
what you said, I cannot go to CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILES and create User Accounts for these said folder (i.e. Administrator, All Users and the Default User.). ...And not to touch them because they all have purposes. You also guessed right; what you are saying is that if I want users to log into my PC using CTRL+ALT+DEL, I have to go into CONTROL PANEL\USERS PROFILES, click on the CHANGE THE WAY USERS LOG ON AND OFF link, and then uncheck the USE THE WELCOME SCREEN option (note that the Windows Help files do not state this, but rather refers to an ADVANCED tab that I do not have existant in my USER PROFILES window. ...And as for the article reference, I just thought that there may have been a reknown, comprehensive, and detailed article on User Profile issues for WXP Pro that tech may commonly use. Thank you again Leonard; I appreciate you. Ben Show quote "Leonard Grey" wrote: > See inline. > > --- > Leonard Grey > Errare humanum est > > Ben wrote: > > Ok. I have a few items if you can share them with me: > > > > 1) I have four folders in my C:\Documents and Settings folder: a) > > Administrator, b) All Users, c) [my full name- which is the account that I > > previously set to automatically come up and use, having full Administration > > rights], and d) Default User. Now, in Control Panel\User Profiles, the only > > account that I set up was "b)"; there appears only two icons also, one for my > > "b)" account, and one for "Guest User" account. Based on this: > > > > a) Can I go ahead and delete all the folders in my C:\Documents and Settings > > folder, except for the one I'm using, i.e. folder "b)"? > > All Users and the Default User are created by Windows. Do not remove > them or move them. Do not alter them in any way until you know exactly > what you are doing. > > All Users contains desktop settings that will apply to all user accounts > that you create, e.g., which shortcuts will appear in the Start menu and > which Favorites will be included in Internet Explorer. > > The Default User account contains all the default configuration settings > that will apply whenever a new user account is created. > > Administrator does not normally appear in Documents and Settings unless > you previously used the built-in Administrator account (which you should > /not/ do unless all other accounts with Administrator permissions are > broken.) Definitely *do not* touch this account. > > The only accounts that appear in the control panel applet are the user > accounts, e.g., the account(s) you created when you first installed > Windows, the Guest account and any other user accounts subsequently > created. The control panel applet does not pertain to system accounts > (like Administrator, All Users and the Default User.) > > > > b) I tried to make an account for the "a)" folder in the C:\Documents and > > Settings folder in Control Panel\User Profles; however, when I try to name > > the account "Administrator", I get a message that this account already > > exists; I know that the folder exists in the C:\Documents and Settings > > folder, but not in Control Panel\User Profiles. Why is this happening, and > > how to I fix this? > > > > 2) In My Microsoft HELP in my Windows XP Pro, there it states that there is > > a way to facilitate CRTL + ALT + DEL when I want a user to log into my > > computer, i.e to go to CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILES, and click on the advanced > > tab; however, when I go there, no ADVANCED tab exits. Can you tell me why, > > and what I can do to obtain this log in functionality? > > I don't know what "facilitate CRTL + ALT + DEL when I want a user to log > into my computer" means. I'll try to guess what you're referring to: > > There are two ways to login to an account in Windows XP. If you choose > to use the Welcome Screen, users see a the name of their account > displayed on the screen with a cute graphic next to it. All they need to > do is to select their account and enter the password. > > For enhanced security you choose to /not/ use the Welcome Screen, in > which case users have to press CTRL+ALT+DEL to start the login process > and then enter /both/ their user name and the correct password. > > > > 3) Finally, can you refer me to an article that covers all the basics on > > this issue? > > May I suggest Google? > > > > Thank you so much. Ben J. > "I cannot go to CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILES and create User Accounts for
these said folder (i.e. Administrator, All Users and the Default User.)" Correct. They are not user accounts. They are system accounts. "And not to touch them because they all have purposes." Correct. Once you learn.../really/ learn...about how these accounts operate, you may find a reason to work with them. (Always make a backup copy of the Default User before altering it.) "I just thought that there may have been a reknown, comprehensive, and detailed article..." I wish. I wouldn't have had to learn the hard way. :-( In general, a well-crafted web search is worth more than gold. Glad I could help. --- Leonard Grey Errare humanum est Ben wrote: Show quote > Thank you so much. Let me see if I understand this: I have WXP Pro; based on > what you said, I cannot go to CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILES and create User > Accounts for these said folder (i.e. Administrator, All Users and the Default > User.). ...And not to touch them because they all have purposes. You also > guessed right; what you are saying is that if I want users to log into my PC > using CTRL+ALT+DEL, I have to go into CONTROL PANEL\USERS PROFILES, click on > the CHANGE THE WAY USERS LOG ON AND OFF link, and then uncheck the USE THE > WELCOME SCREEN option (note that the Windows Help files do not state this, > but rather refers to an ADVANCED tab that I do not have existant in my USER > PROFILES window. ...And as for the article reference, I just thought that > there may have been a reknown, comprehensive, and detailed article on User > Profile issues for WXP Pro that tech may commonly use. Thank you again > Leonard; I appreciate you. Ben > > > "Leonard Grey" wrote: > >> See inline. >> >> --- >> Leonard Grey >> Errare humanum est >> >> Ben wrote: >>> Ok. I have a few items if you can share them with me: >>> >>> 1) I have four folders in my C:\Documents and Settings folder: a) >>> Administrator, b) All Users, c) [my full name- which is the account that I >>> previously set to automatically come up and use, having full Administration >>> rights], and d) Default User. Now, in Control Panel\User Profiles, the only >>> account that I set up was "b)"; there appears only two icons also, one for my >>> "b)" account, and one for "Guest User" account. Based on this: >>> >>> a) Can I go ahead and delete all the folders in my C:\Documents and Settings >>> folder, except for the one I'm using, i.e. folder "b)"? >> All Users and the Default User are created by Windows. Do not remove >> them or move them. Do not alter them in any way until you know exactly >> what you are doing. >> >> All Users contains desktop settings that will apply to all user accounts >> that you create, e.g., which shortcuts will appear in the Start menu and >> which Favorites will be included in Internet Explorer. >> >> The Default User account contains all the default configuration settings >> that will apply whenever a new user account is created. >> >> Administrator does not normally appear in Documents and Settings unless >> you previously used the built-in Administrator account (which you should >> /not/ do unless all other accounts with Administrator permissions are >> broken.) Definitely *do not* touch this account. >> >> The only accounts that appear in the control panel applet are the user >> accounts, e.g., the account(s) you created when you first installed >> Windows, the Guest account and any other user accounts subsequently >> created. The control panel applet does not pertain to system accounts >> (like Administrator, All Users and the Default User.) >>> b) I tried to make an account for the "a)" folder in the C:\Documents and >>> Settings folder in Control Panel\User Profles; however, when I try to name >>> the account "Administrator", I get a message that this account already >>> exists; I know that the folder exists in the C:\Documents and Settings >>> folder, but not in Control Panel\User Profiles. Why is this happening, and >>> how to I fix this? >>> >>> 2) In My Microsoft HELP in my Windows XP Pro, there it states that there is >>> a way to facilitate CRTL + ALT + DEL when I want a user to log into my >>> computer, i.e to go to CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILES, and click on the advanced >>> tab; however, when I go there, no ADVANCED tab exits. Can you tell me why, >>> and what I can do to obtain this log in functionality? >> I don't know what "facilitate CRTL + ALT + DEL when I want a user to log >> into my computer" means. I'll try to guess what you're referring to: >> >> There are two ways to login to an account in Windows XP. If you choose >> to use the Welcome Screen, users see a the name of their account >> displayed on the screen with a cute graphic next to it. All they need to >> do is to select their account and enter the password. >> >> For enhanced security you choose to /not/ use the Welcome Screen, in >> which case users have to press CTRL+ALT+DEL to start the login process >> and then enter /both/ their user name and the correct password. >>> 3) Finally, can you refer me to an article that covers all the basics on >>> this issue? >> May I suggest Google? >>> Thank you so much. Ben J. In news:6FE66BEB-4D90-4C07-A412-CF8DB271F772@microsoft.com, Ben <B**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:Show quote > Ok. I have a few items if you can share them with me: 1) a) Short answer, No. Long answer, Windows XP is a > > 1) I have four folders in my C:\Documents and Settings > folder: a) > Administrator, b) All Users, c) [my full name- which is the > account that I > previously set to automatically come up and use, having full > Administration > rights], and d) Default User. Now, in Control Panel\User > Profiles, the only > account that I set up was "b)"; there appears only two icons > also, one for my > "b)" account, and one for "Guest User" account. Based on > this: > > a) Can I go ahead and delete all the folders in my > C:\Documents and Settings > folder, except for the one I'm using, i.e. folder "b)"? > > b) I tried to make an account for the "a)" folder in the > C:\Documents and > Settings folder in Control Panel\User Profles; however, when > I try to name > the account "Administrator", I get a message that this > account already > exists; I know that the folder exists in the C:\Documents and > Settings > folder, but not in Control Panel\User Profiles. Why is this > happening, and > how to I fix this? > > 2) In My Microsoft HELP in my Windows XP Pro, there it states > that there is > a way to facilitate CRTL + ALT + DEL when I want a user to > log into my > computer, i.e to go to CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILES, and click > on the advanced > tab; however, when I go there, no ADVANCED tab exits. Can > you tell me why, > and what I can do to obtain this log in functionality? > > 3) Finally, can you refer me to an article that covers all > the basics on > this issue? > > Thank you so much. Ben J. multi-user operating system. Each of those folders, along with a few others that are hidden, are crucial to the proper operation of XP. Here's a short description of the folders in question. The Administrator folder is used by an account that is usually hidden and should be used only in emergencies. If your current user account were to somehow become corrupted, the Administrator account is your safety net, ready to help you fix the problem. Note: To log on with the Administrator account you can hit Ctrl + Alt + Del at the Welcome screen in XP Pro. This should bring up the Logon to Windows dialog where you can enter Administrator in the User Name box and logon. In Windows XP Home Edition, you'll need to start the computer in Safe Mode to logon as the Administrator. For more info, take a look at these articles. Courtesy of Ramesh Srinivasan, MS-MVP How to login as Administrator in Windows XP? http://windowsxp.mvps.org/admins.htm Where Is Windows XP's Administrator Account? http://www.connectedhomemag.com/HomeOffice/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=24808 The All Users folder contains files and settings that are common to all the accounts on the computer. If you had created more than one user account, each would be able to access things like common Start menu items and Desktop icons that are stored here. The Default User folder is a template used when you create a new user account. If you're thinking, "I've already created the only account I'll ever need", consider this. If for some reason your user account became corrupted to the point that it was beyond repair, you could log on with the Administrator account and create a new user account, salvage what files you could from the old user folder and be back in business. The only way you get to create a new user account is because the Default User folder exists. 1) b) The Administrator account is a built-in account that exists in all XP systems. Leave this account alone. There's nothing to fix. If you want to create another account with administrative privileges, pick a name other than Administrator. 2) The information in Help and Support is, unfortunately, not always as accurate as it should be. Here's what the Help article should advise you to do. Go to Start and click Run. Note: If Run is not listed on your Start menu, hit the Windows key and the R key at the same time to bring up the Run dialog. In the Run dialog, enter the following command in the Open box. control userpasswords2 In User Accounts, click on the Advanced tab. In the Secure Logon section, put a check mark in the box next to "Require users to press Ctrl + Alt + Del". Click OK. Restart your computer to see if you obtain the desired results. Note: Another way to enable this requirement on an XP Pro system is through the Local Security Policy. 3) Sorry, I'm not familiar with any web site that does a complete and accurate job of explaining user accounts in Windows XP. If you are curious about the inner workings of Windows XP, visit your local library, take out a few books, and start reading. Here's one I'd recommend. Microsoft Windows XP inside out / Ed Bott, Carl Siechert, and Craig Stinson. Good luck Nepatsfan Thank you so much for this great and helpful answer, Napatsfan; OK. First,
You stated that in emergencies, I can log into my Administrators account. Yet I don't have an account for it set up in my CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILE, or anywhere else to set a passwork to it; ...so at the Welcome Screen, when I press Ctrl + Alt + Del, one of the accounts that will appear is ADMINSTRATOR, and I can just go ahead and log into it without a password; then how do I set a password for it? Everything else, you are right on the mark; thank you! Ben J. Show quote "Nepatsfan" wrote: > In news:6FE66BEB-4D90-4C07-A412-CF8DB271F772@microsoft.com, > Ben <B**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > Ok. I have a few items if you can share them with me: > > > > 1) I have four folders in my C:\Documents and Settings > > folder: a) > > Administrator, b) All Users, c) [my full name- which is the > > account that I > > previously set to automatically come up and use, having full > > Administration > > rights], and d) Default User. Now, in Control Panel\User > > Profiles, the only > > account that I set up was "b)"; there appears only two icons > > also, one for my > > "b)" account, and one for "Guest User" account. Based on > > this: > > > > a) Can I go ahead and delete all the folders in my > > C:\Documents and Settings > > folder, except for the one I'm using, i.e. folder "b)"? > > > > b) I tried to make an account for the "a)" folder in the > > C:\Documents and > > Settings folder in Control Panel\User Profles; however, when > > I try to name > > the account "Administrator", I get a message that this > > account already > > exists; I know that the folder exists in the C:\Documents and > > Settings > > folder, but not in Control Panel\User Profiles. Why is this > > happening, and > > how to I fix this? > > > > 2) In My Microsoft HELP in my Windows XP Pro, there it states > > that there is > > a way to facilitate CRTL + ALT + DEL when I want a user to > > log into my > > computer, i.e to go to CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILES, and click > > on the advanced > > tab; however, when I go there, no ADVANCED tab exits. Can > > you tell me why, > > and what I can do to obtain this log in functionality? > > > > 3) Finally, can you refer me to an article that covers all > > the basics on > > this issue? > > > > Thank you so much. Ben J. > > 1) a) Short answer, No. Long answer, Windows XP is a > multi-user operating system. Each of those folders, along with > a few others that are hidden, are crucial to the proper > operation of XP. Here's a short description of the folders in > question. > > The Administrator folder is used by an account that is usually > hidden and should be used only in emergencies. If your current > user account were to somehow become corrupted, the > Administrator account is your safety net, ready to help you fix > the problem. > Note: To log on with the Administrator account you can hit Ctrl > + Alt + Del at the Welcome screen in XP Pro. This should bring > up the Logon to Windows dialog where you can enter > Administrator in the User Name box and logon. In Windows XP > Home Edition, you'll need to start the computer in Safe Mode to > logon as the Administrator. For more info, take a look at these > articles. > > Courtesy of Ramesh Srinivasan, MS-MVP > How to login as Administrator in Windows XP? > http://windowsxp.mvps.org/admins.htm > > Where Is Windows XP's Administrator Account? > http://www.connectedhomemag.com/HomeOffice/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=24808 > > The All Users folder contains files and settings that are > common to all the accounts on the computer. If you had created > more than one user account, each would be able to access things > like common Start menu items and Desktop icons that are stored > here. > > The Default User folder is a template used when you create a > new user account. If you're thinking, "I've already created the > only account I'll ever need", consider this. If for some reason > your user account became corrupted to the point that it was > beyond repair, you could log on with the Administrator account > and create a new user account, salvage what files you could > from the old user folder and be back in business. The only way > you get to create a new user account is because the Default > User folder exists. > > 1) b) The Administrator account is a built-in account that > exists in all XP systems. Leave this account alone. There's > nothing to fix. If you want to create another account with > administrative privileges, pick a name other than > Administrator. > > 2) The information in Help and Support is, unfortunately, not > always as accurate as it should be. Here's what the Help > article should advise you to do. > > Go to Start and click Run. Note: If Run is not listed on your > Start menu, hit the Windows key and the R key at the same time > to bring up the Run dialog. > In the Run dialog, enter the following command in the Open box. > > control userpasswords2 > > In User Accounts, click on the Advanced tab. > In the Secure Logon section, put a check mark in the box next > to "Require users to press Ctrl + Alt + Del". > Click OK. > Restart your computer to see if you obtain the desired results. > > Note: Another way to enable this requirement on an XP Pro > system is through the Local Security Policy. > > 3) Sorry, I'm not familiar with any web site that does a > complete and accurate job of explaining user accounts in > Windows XP. If you are curious about the inner workings of > Windows XP, visit your local library, take out a few books, and > start reading. Here's one I'd recommend. > > Microsoft Windows XP inside out / Ed Bott, Carl Siechert, and > Craig Stinson. > > Good luck > > Nepatsfan > > > Answered inline.
In news:1CF4A234-69B5-4D17-92DB-17EB0390AE6B@microsoft.com, Ben <B**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:> Thank you so much for this great and helpful answer, The Administrator account will not appear in the list of users > Napatsfan; OK. First, > You stated that in emergencies, I can log into my > Administrators account. > Yet I don't have an account for it set up in my CONTROL > PANEL\USER PROFILE, > or anywhere else to set a passwork to it; ...so at the > Welcome Screen, when I > press Ctrl + Alt + Del, one of the accounts that will appear > is ADMINSTRATOR, > and I can just go ahead and log into it without a password; > then how do I set > a password for it? displayed when you run the Control Panel -> User Accounts applet. Remember, this is a hidden account. The only time the Administrator account shows up in that list of accounts is if you are logged on with the Administrator account. In my earlier response I made a mistake in outlining the procedure that will allow you to logon with the built-in Administrator account. It should have read as follows. Note: To log on with the Administrator account you can hit Ctrl + Alt + Del twice at the Welcome screen in XP Pro. This should bring up the Logon to Windows dialog where you can enter Administrator in the User Name box and logon. You have to hit Ctrl + Alt + Del twice in order to get the dialog that will allow you to logon as Administrator. The password for this account is blank by default. Once you logon to the account, you can go to Control Panel -> User Accounts. The icon for the Administrator account will be visible allowing you to assign a password to this account. Keep in mind that you can also gain access to the Administrator account by starting the computer in Safe Mode. Sorry for the confusion, Nepatsfan Show quote > > Everything else, you are right on the mark; thank you! Ben > J. > > "Nepatsfan" wrote: > >> In news:6FE66BEB-4D90-4C07-A412-CF8DB271F772@microsoft.com, >> Ben <B**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>> Ok. I have a few items if you can share them with me: >>> >>> 1) I have four folders in my C:\Documents and Settings >>> folder: a) >>> Administrator, b) All Users, c) [my full name- which is the >>> account that I >>> previously set to automatically come up and use, having >>> full >>> Administration >>> rights], and d) Default User. Now, in Control Panel\User >>> Profiles, the only >>> account that I set up was "b)"; there appears only two >>> icons >>> also, one for my >>> "b)" account, and one for "Guest User" account. Based on >>> this: >>> >>> a) Can I go ahead and delete all the folders in my >>> C:\Documents and Settings >>> folder, except for the one I'm using, i.e. folder "b)"? >>> >>> b) I tried to make an account for the "a)" folder in the >>> C:\Documents and >>> Settings folder in Control Panel\User Profles; however, >>> when >>> I try to name >>> the account "Administrator", I get a message that this >>> account already >>> exists; I know that the folder exists in the C:\Documents >>> and >>> Settings >>> folder, but not in Control Panel\User Profiles. Why is >>> this >>> happening, and >>> how to I fix this? >>> >>> 2) In My Microsoft HELP in my Windows XP Pro, there it >>> states >>> that there is >>> a way to facilitate CRTL + ALT + DEL when I want a user to >>> log into my >>> computer, i.e to go to CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILES, and >>> click >>> on the advanced >>> tab; however, when I go there, no ADVANCED tab exits. Can >>> you tell me why, >>> and what I can do to obtain this log in functionality? >>> >>> 3) Finally, can you refer me to an article that covers all >>> the basics on >>> this issue? >>> >>> Thank you so much. Ben J. >> >> 1) a) Short answer, No. Long answer, Windows XP is a >> multi-user operating system. Each of those folders, along >> with >> a few others that are hidden, are crucial to the proper >> operation of XP. Here's a short description of the folders >> in >> question. >> >> The Administrator folder is used by an account that is >> usually >> hidden and should be used only in emergencies. If your >> current >> user account were to somehow become corrupted, the >> Administrator account is your safety net, ready to help you >> fix >> the problem. >> Note: To log on with the Administrator account you can hit >> Ctrl >> + Alt + Del at the Welcome screen in XP Pro. This should >> bring >> up the Logon to Windows dialog where you can enter >> Administrator in the User Name box and logon. In Windows XP >> Home Edition, you'll need to start the computer in Safe Mode >> to >> logon as the Administrator. For more info, take a look at >> these >> articles. >> >> Courtesy of Ramesh Srinivasan, MS-MVP >> How to login as Administrator in Windows XP? >> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/admins.htm >> >> Where Is Windows XP's Administrator Account? >> http://www.connectedhomemag.com/HomeOffice/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=24808 >> >> The All Users folder contains files and settings that are >> common to all the accounts on the computer. If you had >> created >> more than one user account, each would be able to access >> things >> like common Start menu items and Desktop icons that are >> stored >> here. >> >> The Default User folder is a template used when you create a >> new user account. If you're thinking, "I've already created >> the >> only account I'll ever need", consider this. If for some >> reason >> your user account became corrupted to the point that it was >> beyond repair, you could log on with the Administrator >> account >> and create a new user account, salvage what files you could >> from the old user folder and be back in business. The only >> way >> you get to create a new user account is because the Default >> User folder exists. >> >> 1) b) The Administrator account is a built-in account that >> exists in all XP systems. Leave this account alone. There's >> nothing to fix. If you want to create another account with >> administrative privileges, pick a name other than >> Administrator. >> >> 2) The information in Help and Support is, unfortunately, >> not >> always as accurate as it should be. Here's what the Help >> article should advise you to do. >> >> Go to Start and click Run. Note: If Run is not listed on >> your >> Start menu, hit the Windows key and the R key at the same >> time >> to bring up the Run dialog. >> In the Run dialog, enter the following command in the Open >> box. >> >> control userpasswords2 >> >> In User Accounts, click on the Advanced tab. >> In the Secure Logon section, put a check mark in the box >> next >> to "Require users to press Ctrl + Alt + Del". >> Click OK. >> Restart your computer to see if you obtain the desired >> results. >> >> Note: Another way to enable this requirement on an XP Pro >> system is through the Local Security Policy. >> >> 3) Sorry, I'm not familiar with any web site that does a >> complete and accurate job of explaining user accounts in >> Windows XP. If you are curious about the inner workings of >> Windows XP, visit your local library, take out a few books, >> and >> start reading. Here's one I'd recommend. >> >> Microsoft Windows XP inside out / Ed Bott, Carl Siechert, >> and >> Craig Stinson. >> >> Good luck >> >> Nepatsfan Nothing to be sorry about; thank you! Great response! Ben J.
Show quote "Nepatsfan" wrote: > Answered inline. > > In news:1CF4A234-69B5-4D17-92DB-17EB0390AE6B@microsoft.com, > Ben <B**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > > Thank you so much for this great and helpful answer, > > Napatsfan; OK. First, > > You stated that in emergencies, I can log into my > > Administrators account. > > Yet I don't have an account for it set up in my CONTROL > > PANEL\USER PROFILE, > > or anywhere else to set a passwork to it; ...so at the > > Welcome Screen, when I > > press Ctrl + Alt + Del, one of the accounts that will appear > > is ADMINSTRATOR, > > and I can just go ahead and log into it without a password; > > then how do I set > > a password for it? > > The Administrator account will not appear in the list of users > displayed when you run the Control Panel -> User Accounts > applet. Remember, this is a hidden account. The only time the > Administrator account shows up in that list of accounts is if > you are logged on with the Administrator account. > > In my earlier response I made a mistake in outlining the > procedure that will allow you to logon with the built-in > Administrator account. It should have read as follows. > > Note: To log on with the Administrator account you can hit Ctrl > + Alt + Del twice at the Welcome screen in XP Pro. This should > bring > up the Logon to Windows dialog where you can enter > Administrator in the User Name box and logon. > > You have to hit Ctrl + Alt + Del twice in order to get the > dialog that will allow you to logon as Administrator. The > password for this account is blank by default. Once you logon > to the account, you can go to Control Panel -> User Accounts. > The icon for the Administrator account will be visible allowing > you to assign a password to this account. Keep in mind that you > can also gain access to the Administrator account by starting > the computer in Safe Mode. > > Sorry for the confusion, > > Nepatsfan > > > > > Everything else, you are right on the mark; thank you! Ben > > J. > > > > "Nepatsfan" wrote: > > > >> In news:6FE66BEB-4D90-4C07-A412-CF8DB271F772@microsoft.com, > >> Ben <B**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > >>> Ok. I have a few items if you can share them with me: > >>> > >>> 1) I have four folders in my C:\Documents and Settings > >>> folder: a) > >>> Administrator, b) All Users, c) [my full name- which is the > >>> account that I > >>> previously set to automatically come up and use, having > >>> full > >>> Administration > >>> rights], and d) Default User. Now, in Control Panel\User > >>> Profiles, the only > >>> account that I set up was "b)"; there appears only two > >>> icons > >>> also, one for my > >>> "b)" account, and one for "Guest User" account. Based on > >>> this: > >>> > >>> a) Can I go ahead and delete all the folders in my > >>> C:\Documents and Settings > >>> folder, except for the one I'm using, i.e. folder "b)"? > >>> > >>> b) I tried to make an account for the "a)" folder in the > >>> C:\Documents and > >>> Settings folder in Control Panel\User Profles; however, > >>> when > >>> I try to name > >>> the account "Administrator", I get a message that this > >>> account already > >>> exists; I know that the folder exists in the C:\Documents > >>> and > >>> Settings > >>> folder, but not in Control Panel\User Profiles. Why is > >>> this > >>> happening, and > >>> how to I fix this? > >>> > >>> 2) In My Microsoft HELP in my Windows XP Pro, there it > >>> states > >>> that there is > >>> a way to facilitate CRTL + ALT + DEL when I want a user to > >>> log into my > >>> computer, i.e to go to CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILES, and > >>> click > >>> on the advanced > >>> tab; however, when I go there, no ADVANCED tab exits. Can > >>> you tell me why, > >>> and what I can do to obtain this log in functionality? > >>> > >>> 3) Finally, can you refer me to an article that covers all > >>> the basics on > >>> this issue? > >>> > >>> Thank you so much. Ben J. > >> > >> 1) a) Short answer, No. Long answer, Windows XP is a > >> multi-user operating system. Each of those folders, along > >> with > >> a few others that are hidden, are crucial to the proper > >> operation of XP. Here's a short description of the folders > >> in > >> question. > >> > >> The Administrator folder is used by an account that is > >> usually > >> hidden and should be used only in emergencies. If your > >> current > >> user account were to somehow become corrupted, the > >> Administrator account is your safety net, ready to help you > >> fix > >> the problem. > >> Note: To log on with the Administrator account you can hit > >> Ctrl > >> + Alt + Del at the Welcome screen in XP Pro. This should > >> bring > >> up the Logon to Windows dialog where you can enter > >> Administrator in the User Name box and logon. In Windows XP > >> Home Edition, you'll need to start the computer in Safe Mode > >> to > >> logon as the Administrator. For more info, take a look at > >> these > >> articles. > >> > >> Courtesy of Ramesh Srinivasan, MS-MVP > >> How to login as Administrator in Windows XP? > >> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/admins.htm > >> > >> Where Is Windows XP's Administrator Account? > >> http://www.connectedhomemag.com/HomeOffice/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=24808 > >> > >> The All Users folder contains files and settings that are > >> common to all the accounts on the computer. If you had > >> created > >> more than one user account, each would be able to access > >> things > >> like common Start menu items and Desktop icons that are > >> stored > >> here. > >> > >> The Default User folder is a template used when you create a > >> new user account. If you're thinking, "I've already created > >> the > >> only account I'll ever need", consider this. If for some > >> reason > >> your user account became corrupted to the point that it was > >> beyond repair, you could log on with the Administrator > >> account > >> and create a new user account, salvage what files you could > >> from the old user folder and be back in business. The only > >> way > >> you get to create a new user account is because the Default > >> User folder exists. > >> > >> 1) b) The Administrator account is a built-in account that > >> exists in all XP systems. Leave this account alone. There's > >> nothing to fix. If you want to create another account with > >> administrative privileges, pick a name other than > >> Administrator. > >> > >> 2) The information in Help and Support is, unfortunately, > >> not > >> always as accurate as it should be. Here's what the Help > >> article should advise you to do. > >> > >> Go to Start and click Run. Note: If Run is not listed on > >> your > >> Start menu, hit the Windows key and the R key at the same > >> time > >> to bring up the Run dialog. > >> In the Run dialog, enter the following command in the Open > >> box. > >> > >> control userpasswords2 > >> > >> In User Accounts, click on the Advanced tab. > >> In the Secure Logon section, put a check mark in the box > >> next > >> to "Require users to press Ctrl + Alt + Del". > >> Click OK. > >> Restart your computer to see if you obtain the desired > >> results. > >> > >> Note: Another way to enable this requirement on an XP Pro > >> system is through the Local Security Policy. > >> > >> 3) Sorry, I'm not familiar with any web site that does a > >> complete and accurate job of explaining user accounts in > >> Windows XP. If you are curious about the inner workings of > >> Windows XP, visit your local library, take out a few books, > >> and > >> start reading. Here's one I'd recommend. > >> > >> Microsoft Windows XP inside out / Ed Bott, Carl Siechert, > >> and > >> Craig Stinson. > >> > >> Good luck > >> > >> Nepatsfan > > > > You're welcome.
Nepatsfan In news:37F014E6-A08E-4620-9901-5CA27C559995@microsoft.com, Ben <B**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:Show quote > Nothing to be sorry about; thank you! Great response! Ben > J. > > "Nepatsfan" wrote: > >> Answered inline. >> >> In news:1CF4A234-69B5-4D17-92DB-17EB0390AE6B@microsoft.com, >> Ben <B**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>> Thank you so much for this great and helpful answer, >>> Napatsfan; OK. First, >>> You stated that in emergencies, I can log into my >>> Administrators account. >>> Yet I don't have an account for it set up in my CONTROL >>> PANEL\USER PROFILE, >>> or anywhere else to set a passwork to it; ...so at the >>> Welcome Screen, when I >>> press Ctrl + Alt + Del, one of the accounts that will >>> appear >>> is ADMINSTRATOR, >>> and I can just go ahead and log into it without a password; >>> then how do I set >>> a password for it? >> >> The Administrator account will not appear in the list of >> users >> displayed when you run the Control Panel -> User Accounts >> applet. Remember, this is a hidden account. The only time >> the >> Administrator account shows up in that list of accounts is >> if >> you are logged on with the Administrator account. >> >> In my earlier response I made a mistake in outlining the >> procedure that will allow you to logon with the built-in >> Administrator account. It should have read as follows. >> >> Note: To log on with the Administrator account you can hit >> Ctrl >> + Alt + Del twice at the Welcome screen in XP Pro. This >> should >> bring >> up the Logon to Windows dialog where you can enter >> Administrator in the User Name box and logon. >> >> You have to hit Ctrl + Alt + Del twice in order to get the >> dialog that will allow you to logon as Administrator. The >> password for this account is blank by default. Once you >> logon >> to the account, you can go to Control Panel -> User >> Accounts. >> The icon for the Administrator account will be visible >> allowing >> you to assign a password to this account. Keep in mind that >> you >> can also gain access to the Administrator account by >> starting >> the computer in Safe Mode. >> >> Sorry for the confusion, >> >> Nepatsfan >> >>> >>> Everything else, you are right on the mark; thank you! Ben >>> J. >>> >>> "Nepatsfan" wrote: >>> >>>> In >>>> news:6FE66BEB-4D90-4C07-A412-CF8DB271F772@microsoft.com, >>>> Ben <B**@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >>>>> Ok. I have a few items if you can share them with me: >>>>> >>>>> 1) I have four folders in my C:\Documents and Settings >>>>> folder: a) >>>>> Administrator, b) All Users, c) [my full name- which is >>>>> the >>>>> account that I >>>>> previously set to automatically come up and use, having >>>>> full >>>>> Administration >>>>> rights], and d) Default User. Now, in Control Panel\User >>>>> Profiles, the only >>>>> account that I set up was "b)"; there appears only two >>>>> icons >>>>> also, one for my >>>>> "b)" account, and one for "Guest User" account. Based on >>>>> this: >>>>> >>>>> a) Can I go ahead and delete all the folders in my >>>>> C:\Documents and Settings >>>>> folder, except for the one I'm using, i.e. folder "b)"? >>>>> >>>>> b) I tried to make an account for the "a)" folder in the >>>>> C:\Documents and >>>>> Settings folder in Control Panel\User Profles; however, >>>>> when >>>>> I try to name >>>>> the account "Administrator", I get a message that this >>>>> account already >>>>> exists; I know that the folder exists in the C:\Documents >>>>> and >>>>> Settings >>>>> folder, but not in Control Panel\User Profiles. Why is >>>>> this >>>>> happening, and >>>>> how to I fix this? >>>>> >>>>> 2) In My Microsoft HELP in my Windows XP Pro, there it >>>>> states >>>>> that there is >>>>> a way to facilitate CRTL + ALT + DEL when I want a user >>>>> to >>>>> log into my >>>>> computer, i.e to go to CONTROL PANEL\USER PROFILES, and >>>>> click >>>>> on the advanced >>>>> tab; however, when I go there, no ADVANCED tab exits. >>>>> Can >>>>> you tell me why, >>>>> and what I can do to obtain this log in functionality? >>>>> >>>>> 3) Finally, can you refer me to an article that covers >>>>> all >>>>> the basics on >>>>> this issue? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you so much. Ben J. >>>> >>>> 1) a) Short answer, No. Long answer, Windows XP is a >>>> multi-user operating system. Each of those folders, along >>>> with >>>> a few others that are hidden, are crucial to the proper >>>> operation of XP. Here's a short description of the folders >>>> in >>>> question. >>>> >>>> The Administrator folder is used by an account that is >>>> usually >>>> hidden and should be used only in emergencies. If your >>>> current >>>> user account were to somehow become corrupted, the >>>> Administrator account is your safety net, ready to help >>>> you >>>> fix >>>> the problem. >>>> Note: To log on with the Administrator account you can hit >>>> Ctrl >>>> + Alt + Del at the Welcome screen in XP Pro. This should >>>> bring >>>> up the Logon to Windows dialog where you can enter >>>> Administrator in the User Name box and logon. In Windows >>>> XP >>>> Home Edition, you'll need to start the computer in Safe >>>> Mode >>>> to >>>> logon as the Administrator. For more info, take a look at >>>> these >>>> articles. >>>> >>>> Courtesy of Ramesh Srinivasan, MS-MVP >>>> How to login as Administrator in Windows XP? >>>> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/admins.htm >>>> >>>> Where Is Windows XP's Administrator Account? >>>> http://www.connectedhomemag.com/HomeOffice/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=24808 >>>> >>>> The All Users folder contains files and settings that are >>>> common to all the accounts on the computer. If you had >>>> created >>>> more than one user account, each would be able to access >>>> things >>>> like common Start menu items and Desktop icons that are >>>> stored >>>> here. >>>> >>>> The Default User folder is a template used when you create >>>> a >>>> new user account. If you're thinking, "I've already >>>> created >>>> the >>>> only account I'll ever need", consider this. If for some >>>> reason >>>> your user account became corrupted to the point that it >>>> was >>>> beyond repair, you could log on with the Administrator >>>> account >>>> and create a new user account, salvage what files you >>>> could >>>> from the old user folder and be back in business. The only >>>> way >>>> you get to create a new user account is because the >>>> Default >>>> User folder exists. >>>> >>>> 1) b) The Administrator account is a built-in account that >>>> exists in all XP systems. Leave this account alone. >>>> There's >>>> nothing to fix. If you want to create another account with >>>> administrative privileges, pick a name other than >>>> Administrator. >>>> >>>> 2) The information in Help and Support is, unfortunately, >>>> not >>>> always as accurate as it should be. Here's what the Help >>>> article should advise you to do. >>>> >>>> Go to Start and click Run. Note: If Run is not listed on >>>> your >>>> Start menu, hit the Windows key and the R key at the same >>>> time >>>> to bring up the Run dialog. >>>> In the Run dialog, enter the following command in the Open >>>> box. >>>> >>>> control userpasswords2 >>>> >>>> In User Accounts, click on the Advanced tab. >>>> In the Secure Logon section, put a check mark in the box >>>> next >>>> to "Require users to press Ctrl + Alt + Del". >>>> Click OK. >>>> Restart your computer to see if you obtain the desired >>>> results. >>>> >>>> Note: Another way to enable this requirement on an XP Pro >>>> system is through the Local Security Policy. >>>> >>>> 3) Sorry, I'm not familiar with any web site that does a >>>> complete and accurate job of explaining user accounts in >>>> Windows XP. If you are curious about the inner workings of >>>> Windows XP, visit your local library, take out a few >>>> books, >>>> and >>>> start reading. Here's one I'd recommend. >>>> >>>> Microsoft Windows XP inside out / Ed Bott, Carl Siechert, >>>> and >>>> Craig Stinson. >>>> >>>> Good luck >>>> >>>> Nepatsfan Let me try my luck here, if I can figure out how to start.... Probably I
should start a new query (and I may) but this seems to be the only post I saw that comes even close to my own problem (actually, 2). Specs: Win XP Pro SP2; Intel Celeron 2.66 GHz; 224 MB RAM (1) Way back when I had a problem - think a blown MBR (same again as now). Eventually fixed it and then did a back up and a system state back up. When she blew again, I got it going again and afterwards did a confusing restore of the system state (Windows help on most issues confuses the hell out of me). To tell the truth, by now I forget what all I did. In any case, in the end I wound up with a ton of accounts, one of which (w/ a very long name w/nrs, preceded by Admin or similar), took over. None of these accts are pw protected. I would love to delete some of these messy accounts and restore the one (call it "MAIN") I had used previously - because it has a ton of desktop shortcuts I've set up over a long time and don't want to spend months re-doing. Any way to do that? (2) Next problem. At moment I'm using another computer. The original keeps blowing the MBR on its only HD. I got that HD slaved and working ok now in this 2nd old desktop comp (as a Slave, the un-bootable, blown-MBR HD is ok). There are several accounts on the prime Master HD and, of course, a ton of accounts, as I've said, on that Slave HD. In Documents and Settings, each of these accts (on both prime and Slave drives) has its own "DeskTop". I can access these of course via Docs & Sets, but that's not convenient and not what I'd prefer. Is there any way to make any such 'DeskTop', on any of these 2 HD's, the actual, 'Active DeskTop'? I want to see the REAL, prefered DeskTop on my screen, so I can work on it rather than the current default one that comes up at boot to the current Master HD. BTW, with this Master HD I do get a log-in screen but no password required. I just press "Enter" to get in. Any hope? ------ Ted... I ran into a bug problem !!!
I was trying to play with "control userpasswrds2" and after committing changes my low priviledge user simply disappeared from XP Home login screen. I have realized that attempting to change user group has caused the user to *LOST* association to standard group "Users". Unfortunately, XP Home have no control like the pro for assigning again users to group. I was disperate when i have fount this little nice utility XP HOME USER MANAGER - Gyrus Solution http://www.xphometools.com/download.aspx?p=2&v=1.1-RELEASE I've installed this as shareware, then i have located the missing account (it was available, just not visible anymore for XP Home), then i have added the user to "Users" group, et VOILA! I could back login using the colorful logon screen. Use TweakUI also to make sure that this re-enabled user is not in "hidden" status. Hope this helps, Paolo Marani On 4 Nov, 11:57, tedoniman <tedoni***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: Show quote > Let me try my luck here, if I can figure out how to start.... Probably I > should start > a new query (and I may) but this seems to be the only post I saw that comes > even close to my own problem (actually, 2). > > Specs: WinXPPro SP2; Intel Celeron 2.66 GHz; 224 MB RAM > > (1) Way back when I had a problem - think a blown MBR (same again as now). > Eventually fixed it and then did a back up and a system state back up. > > When she blew again, I got it going again and afterwards did a confusing > restore > of the system state (Windows help on most issues confuses the hell out of me). > To tell the truth, by now I forget what all I did. > > In any case, in the end I wound up with a ton of accounts, one of which (w/ > a very long name w/nrs, preceded by Admin or similar), took over. None of > these accts are pw protected. > > I would love to delete some of these messy accounts and restore the one > (call it > "MAIN") I had used previously - because it has a ton of desktop shortcuts > I've set up over a long time and don't want to spend months re-doing. > > Any way to do that? > > (2) Next problem. At moment I'm using another computer. The original keeps > blowing the MBR on its only HD. I got that HD slaved and working ok now in > this 2nd old desktop comp (as a Slave, the un-bootable, blown-MBR HD is ok). > > There are several accounts on the prime Master HD and, of course, a ton of > accounts, as I've said, on that Slave HD. In Documents and Settings, each of > these accts (on both prime and Slave drives) has its own "DeskTop". I can > access these of course via Docs & Sets, but that's not convenient and not > what I'd prefer. > > Is there any way to make any such 'DeskTop', on any of these 2 HD's, the > actual, > 'Active DeskTop'? I want to see the REAL, prefered DeskTop on my screen, so > I can work on it rather than the current default one that comes up at boot > to the > current Master HD. > > BTW, with this Master HD I do get a log-in screen but no password required. I > just press "Enter" to get in. > > Any hope? > > ------ > Ted... |
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