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Bugs, bugs ...Is there any place where can I report bugs in Microsoft products in a way that gives somethings ? I mean anyone there cares ? I was coping with bugs in Visual Studio for years, but I have enough. After installing Service Pack 1 for .NET 2003 I just cannot stand it. Simplest things are buggy like never before. Examples., (those that I have never encountered without Service Pack) 1. Intellisense stops working after some declarations with comma separated values. 2. Mouse cursor moves stopped marking blocks, although double clicked was marking words propelly, started to work after restarting environment. 3. When I open some source file in the editor, and close it, I rarely get the previous file on screen, usually I get some other file, and I am thinking hard where I was and why I am here. 4. First day I installed it, after several minutes, main menu stopped working, everything else worked, but menu was just like dead picture. I hope they did not mess up the compiler Of course there are some improvements, but still not the things that should be done in first place. Why code collapsing does not survive closing and opening the solution ? When I do maintnainceof my thousands of code lines I am collapsing code that I do not need to see. It clears the image, and helps to see what's important. Unfortunatelly is all gone when I close the file. Regards Pawe³ Soko³owski
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Show quote "PawelSokolowski" <PeeS***@wp.pl> schreef in bericht
news:urpphMSIHHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Hi all, > > Is there any place where can I report bugs in Microsoft products in a way > that gives somethings ? > I mean anyone there cares ? > I was coping with bugs in Visual Studio for years, but I have enough. > After installing Service Pack 1 for .NET 2003 I just cannot stand it. > Simplest things are buggy like never before. > > Examples., (those that I have never encountered without Service Pack) > 1. Intellisense stops working after some declarations with comma separated > values. > 2. Mouse cursor moves stopped marking blocks, although double clicked was > marking words propelly, started to work after restarting environment. > 3. When I open some source file in the editor, and close it, I rarely get > the previous file on screen, usually I get some other file, and I am > thinking hard where I was and why I am here. > 4. First day I installed it, after several minutes, main menu stopped > working, everything else worked, but menu was just like dead picture. > > I hope they did not mess up the compiler > > Of course there are some improvements, but still not the things that > should > be done in first place. > Why code collapsing does not survive closing and opening the solution ? > When I do maintnainceof my thousands of code lines I am collapsing code > that > I do not need to see. It clears the image, and helps to see what's > important. > Unfortunatelly is all gone when I close the file. > > Regards > Pawe³ Soko³owski > > > >
Big thanks !
Now I have the weekend for reporting all bugs I have found :) Regards Pawel Sokolowski PawelSokolowski <PeeS***@wp.pl> wrote:
> > http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/content/content.aspx?ContentID=2220 I find it's usually worth posting a short but complete program > > Big thanks ! > > Now I have the weekend for reporting all bugs I have found :) demonstrating the program on newsgroups first, as a sort of pre-validation step - if you've just misunderstood something (as happens to us all from time to time) you're more likely to get good feedback as to why it isn't a bug from newsgroup readers than from the MS system. -- Jon Skeet - <sk***@pobox.com> http://www.pobox.com/~skeet Blog: http://www.msmvps.com/jon.skeet If replying to the group, please do not mail me too PawelSokolowski wrote:
> > http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/content/content.aspx?ContentID=222 You can report there, but I guarantee you, it will be in general a> > 0 > > > Big thanks ! > > Now I have the weekend for reporting all bugs I have found :) waste of time. As Jon said, it's often better to post a repro in the newsgroups, so people here can respond to it, provide workarounds (as you have to use a workaround anyway, MS patches very slowly), and if necessary, escalate (MVPs) to mailinglists with the product teams. I stopped posting issues to Connect some time ago, as it's simply too frustrating to read after a loooooooong period of time that some ms employee closes an easy to reproduce issue as 'by design'. FB -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Lead developer of LLBLGen Pro, the productive O/R mapper for .NET LLBLGen Pro website: http://www.llblgen.com My .NET blog: http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma Microsoft MVP (C#) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Frans,
In my opinion is what you write in two ways not true, first of all do you take a little bit the writing style as Jon in my idea often does, from which I often tell to Jon that at least I don't like it. (I hope that he sees now what I mean with that). Secondly I get forever answer from connect. Sometimes negative sometimes positive from my point of view.(I never tell that I am MVP when I am reporting a bug using this method). Jon gave two advices, which I both agree with him: first to send everything documented well and secondly probably because it takes a long time to get direct result to post the problem as well here (the latter just as I understood it, not that he wrote that). In my idea suggest your message that Jon is too telling that it is out of sense to report. I have even done myself a suggestion this morning about the IDE, because in this case I found that a better place than the product team.. Cor Show quote "Frans Bouma [C# MVP]" <perseus.usenetNOSPAM@xs4all.nl> schreef in bericht news:xn0ev2p3v5cof5002@news.microsoft.com... > PawelSokolowski wrote: > >> > http://connect.microsoft.com/Main/content/content.aspx?ContentID=222 >> > 0 >> >> >> Big thanks ! >> >> Now I have the weekend for reporting all bugs I have found :) > > You can report there, but I guarantee you, it will be in general a > waste of time. > > As Jon said, it's often better to post a repro in the newsgroups, so > people here can respond to it, provide workarounds (as you have to use > a workaround anyway, MS patches very slowly), and if necessary, > escalate (MVPs) to mailinglists with the product teams. I stopped > posting issues to Connect some time ago, as it's simply too frustrating > to read after a loooooooong period of time that some ms employee closes > an easy to reproduce issue as 'by design'. > > FB > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Lead developer of LLBLGen Pro, the productive O/R mapper for .NET > LLBLGen Pro website: http://www.llblgen.com > My .NET blog: http://weblogs.asp.net/fbouma > Microsoft MVP (C#) > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ there is more...
ComboBox that contains methods of currently edited class (below editor tabs, on the right) started behaving strangely, it was opening down, but only showing a one pixel wide black line instead of a window. Restarting environment helped. Regards Pawel Sokolowski Hello Pawel,
The bugs you are experiencing are not normally reproducable in everyone's environment. MS did not release a tool that behaves this way for everyone. What you are experiencing is probably not unique, however. This problem may have been solved before. You have the right to get product support for issues like this, depending on how you purchased your product. I encourage you to seek out product support services from MS. -- Show quote--- Nick Malik [Microsoft] MCSD, CFPS, Certified Scrummaster http://blogs.msdn.com/nickmalik Disclaimer: Opinions expressed in this forum are my own, and not representative of my employer. I do not answer questions on behalf of my employer. I'm just a programmer helping programmers. -- "PawelSokolowski" <PeeS***@wp.pl> wrote in message news:%23RcY6SSIHHA.1248@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > there is more... > > ComboBox that contains methods of currently edited class (below editor > tabs, on the right) started behaving strangely, it was opening down, but > only showing a one pixel wide black line instead of a window. > Restarting environment helped. > > Regards > Pawel Sokolowski > >  
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