"Laurel" wrote:

> I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those tabpages.  I
> successfully linked one of those subforms with the master by doing something
> with the mouse that got me to a property list where the  "data" tabpage
> included "master link" and "child link"  (I THINK it was 'master'... might
> have been 'parent'.)
>
> My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right mouse/properties
> somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't link the second subform to
> the master because I can't get at that particular property list.
>
> I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The first subform
> is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second is not.
>
> Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the dropdown in the
> menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms CONTROLS (not
> yelling... underlining).   My understanding is that a subform actually lives
> inside a subform control.
>
> Whether or not I'm right about the subform control thing.... Can someone
> tell me how to get at that property list that contains "master link" and
> "child link"?   Might I have a corrupt database?   I've "compact & repair"ed
> a couple of times.
>
>
>

"Rick Brandt" <rickbran***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> rico wrote:
> > In form design view, doulble click on the subform, the subforms
> > properties should then pop up. Select the data tab. That should show
> > you the master and child fields.
>
> That is incorrect.  The MasterLink and ChildLink properties are NOT
> properties of the form shown within the subform control.  They are
> properties of the subform control itself.
>
> If you "single" click on the subform control then those properties should
be
> shown on the {data} page of the property sheet.
>
> --
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> to this message.     Send instead to...
> RBrandt    at       Hunter      dot      com
>
>
>

>
> --
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> to this message.     Send instead to...
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>
>

"rico" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> In form design view, doulble click on the subform, the subforms properties
> should then pop up. Select the data tab. That should show you the master
and
> child fields.
>
> HTH
>
> Rico
>
>
> "Laurel" wrote:
>
> > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those

> > successfully linked one of those subforms with the master by doing
something
> > with the mouse that got me to a property list where the  "data" tabpage
> > included "master link" and "child link"  (I THINK it was 'master'...
might
> > have been 'parent'.)
> >
> > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
mouse/properties
> > somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't link the second subform
to
> > the master because I can't get at that particular property list.
> >
> > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The first
subform
> > is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second is not.
> >
> > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the dropdown in
the
> > menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms CONTROLS
(not
> > yelling... underlining).   My understanding is that a subform actually
lives
> > inside a subform control.
> >
> > Whether or not I'm right about the subform control thing.... Can someone
> > tell me how to get at that property list that contains "master link" and
> > "child link"?   Might I have a corrupt database?   I've "compact &
repair"ed
> > a couple of times.
> >
> >
> >

"Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> When I do that I get the same thing I got when I right-moused on that
area.
> That is, I get the attributes of the underlying form.  The Data tab
contains
> things like "RecordSource", "Filter".....down to "Record Locks."  No
"Link"
> attributes.
>
> "rico" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:42575E82-8BDD-4DBF-A3CD-8E14EF61B752@microsoft.com...
> > In form design view, doulble click on the subform, the subforms
properties
> > should then pop up. Select the data tab. That should show you the master
> and
> > child fields.
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Rico
> >
> >
> > "Laurel" wrote:
> >
> > > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
> tabpages.  I
> > > successfully linked one of those subforms with the master by doing
> something
> > > with the mouse that got me to a property list where the  "data"
tabpage
> > > included "master link" and "child link"  (I THINK it was 'master'...
> might
> > > have been 'parent'.)
> > >
> > > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
> mouse/properties
> > > somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't link the second
subform
> to
> > > the master because I can't get at that particular property list.
> > >
> > > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The first
> subform
> > > is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second is not.
> > >
> > > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the dropdown
in
> the
> > > menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms CONTROLS
> (not
> > > yelling... underlining).   My understanding is that a subform actually
> lives
> > > inside a subform control.
> > >
> > > Whether or not I'm right about the subform control thing.... Can
someone
> > > tell me how to get at that property list that contains "master link"
and
> > > "child link"?   Might I have a corrupt database?   I've "compact &
> repair"ed
> > > a couple of times.
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>

"Malcolm Cook" <m**@stowers-institute.org> wrote in message
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> single click.
>
> the 1st time you click, you get the subform object
>
> the 2nd time you click, you get the form which is the 'sourceobject' of
the
> subform.
>
> got it?
>
>
> "Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23OCOt2PGFHA.2976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > When I do that I get the same thing I got when I right-moused on that
> area.
> > That is, I get the attributes of the underlying form.  The Data tab
> contains
> > things like "RecordSource", "Filter".....down to "Record Locks."  No
> "Link"
> > attributes.
> >
> > "rico" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:42575E82-8BDD-4DBF-A3CD-8E14EF61B752@microsoft.com...
> > > In form design view, doulble click on the subform, the subforms
> properties
> > > should then pop up. Select the data tab. That should show you the
master
> > and
> > > child fields.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > >
> > > Rico
> > >
> > >
> > > "Laurel" wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
> > tabpages.  I
> > > > successfully linked one of those subforms with the master by doing
> > something
> > > > with the mouse that got me to a property list where the  "data"
> tabpage
> > > > included "master link" and "child link"  (I THINK it was 'master'...
> > might
> > > > have been 'parent'.)
> > > >
> > > > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
> > mouse/properties
> > > > somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't link the second
> subform
> > to
> > > > the master because I can't get at that particular property list.
> > > >
> > > > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The first
> > subform
> > > > is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second is not.
> > > >
> > > > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the dropdown
> in
> > the
> > > > menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms
CONTROLS
> > (not
> > > > yelling... underlining).   My understanding is that a subform
actually
> > lives
> > > > inside a subform control.
> > > >
> > > > Whether or not I'm right about the subform control thing.... Can
> someone
> > > > tell me how to get at that property list that contains "master link"
> and
> > > > "child link"?   Might I have a corrupt database?   I've "compact &
> > repair"ed
> > > > a couple of times.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
>
>

"Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> A single click just seems to select the subform (put 8 tiny squares on
> corners and sides).  This is what I would expect it to do.  When I click
> after it is selected, it unselects (again, what I would expect).
>
> So, no, don't got it yet.
>
> I'm running Access 2000.  Do you think there might be a bug involved here
> somewhere?
>
> "Malcolm Cook" <m**@stowers-institute.org> wrote in message
> news:%23SWFw5PGFHA.2588@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > single click.
> >
> > the 1st time you click, you get the subform object
> >
> > the 2nd time you click, you get the form which is the 'sourceobject' of
> the
> > subform.
> >
> > got it?
> >
> >
> > "Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23OCOt2PGFHA.2976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > When I do that I get the same thing I got when I right-moused on that
> > area.
> > > That is, I get the attributes of the underlying form.  The Data tab
> > contains
> > > things like "RecordSource", "Filter".....down to "Record Locks."  No
> > "Link"
> > > attributes.
> > >
> > > "rico" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:42575E82-8BDD-4DBF-A3CD-8E14EF61B752@microsoft.com...
> > > > In form design view, doulble click on the subform, the subforms
> > properties
> > > > should then pop up. Select the data tab. That should show you the
> master
> > > and
> > > > child fields.
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > >
> > > > Rico
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Laurel" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
> > > tabpages.  I
> > > > > successfully linked one of those subforms with the master by doing
> > > something
> > > > > with the mouse that got me to a property list where the  "data"
> > tabpage
> > > > > included "master link" and "child link"  (I THINK it was
'master'...
> > > might
> > > > > have been 'parent'.)
> > > > >
> > > > > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
> > > mouse/properties
> > > > > somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't link the second
> > subform
> > > to
> > > > > the master because I can't get at that particular property list.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The
first
> > > subform
> > > > > is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second is
not.
> > > > >
> > > > > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the
dropdown
> > in
> > > the
> > > > > menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms
> CONTROLS
> > > (not
> > > > > yelling... underlining).   My understanding is that a subform
> actually
> > > lives
> > > > > inside a subform control.
> > > > >
> > > > > Whether or not I'm right about the subform control thing.... Can
> > someone
> > > > > tell me how to get at that property list that contains "master
link"
> > and
> > > > > "child link"?   Might I have a corrupt database?   I've "compact &
> > > repair"ed
> > > > > a couple of times.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

"Malcolm Cook" <m**@stowers-institute.org> wrote in message
news:OqiWvPQGFHA.3492@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> after the single clicke, choose "View > Properties" - then in the
properites
> window look at the 'Data' tab.  Your memory should be refreshed....
>
> "Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%238M2o$PGFHA.3608@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > A single click just seems to select the subform (put 8 tiny squares on
> > corners and sides).  This is what I would expect it to do.  When I click
> > after it is selected, it unselects (again, what I would expect).
> >
> > So, no, don't got it yet.
> >
> > I'm running Access 2000.  Do you think there might be a bug involved
here
> > somewhere?
> >
> > "Malcolm Cook" <m**@stowers-institute.org> wrote in message
> > news:%23SWFw5PGFHA.2588@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > single click.
> > >
> > > the 1st time you click, you get the subform object
> > >
> > > the 2nd time you click, you get the form which is the 'sourceobject'
of
> > the
> > > subform.
> > >
> > > got it?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%23OCOt2PGFHA.2976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > When I do that I get the same thing I got when I right-moused on
that
> > > area.
> > > > That is, I get the attributes of the underlying form.  The Data tab
> > > contains
> > > > things like "RecordSource", "Filter".....down to "Record Locks."  No
> > > "Link"
> > > > attributes.
> > > >
> > > > "rico" <r***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:42575E82-8BDD-4DBF-A3CD-8E14EF61B752@microsoft.com...
> > > > > In form design view, doulble click on the subform, the subforms
> > > properties
> > > > > should then pop up. Select the data tab. That should show you the
> > master
> > > > and
> > > > > child fields.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH
> > > > >
> > > > > Rico
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Laurel" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
> > > > tabpages.  I
> > > > > > successfully linked one of those subforms with the master by
doing
> > > > something
> > > > > > with the mouse that got me to a property list where the  "data"
> > > tabpage
> > > > > > included "master link" and "child link"  (I THINK it was
> 'master'...
> > > > might
> > > > > > have been 'parent'.)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
> > > > mouse/properties
> > > > > > somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't link the second
> > > subform
> > > > to
> > > > > > the master because I can't get at that particular property list.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The
> first
> > > > subform
> > > > > > is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second is
> not.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the
> dropdown
> > > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms
> > CONTROLS
> > > > (not
> > > > > > yelling... underlining).   My understanding is that a subform
> > actually
> > > > lives
> > > > > > inside a subform control.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whether or not I'm right about the subform control thing.... Can
> > > someone
> > > > > > tell me how to get at that property list that contains "master
> link"
> > > and
> > > > > > "child link"?   Might I have a corrupt database?   I've "compact
&
> > > > repair"ed
> > > > > > a couple of times.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

> I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
> tabpages.  I successfully linked one of those subforms with the
> master by doing something with the mouse that got me to a property
> list where the  "data" tabpage included "master link" and "child
> link"  (I THINK it was 'master'... might have been 'parent'.)
>
> My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
> mouse/properties somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't
> link the second subform to the master because I can't get at that
> particular property list.
>
> I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The first
> subform is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second
> is not.
>
> Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the dropdown
> in the menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms
> CONTROLS[snip]

"Rick Brandt" <rickbran***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:381640F5g9ntgU1@individual.net...
> Laurel wrote:
> > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
> > tabpages.  I successfully linked one of those subforms with the
> > master by doing something with the mouse that got me to a property
> > list where the  "data" tabpage included "master link" and "child
> > link"  (I THINK it was 'master'... might have been 'parent'.)
> >
> > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
> > mouse/properties somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't
> > link the second subform to the master because I can't get at that
> > particular property list.
> >
> > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The first
> > subform is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second
> > is not.
> >
> > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the dropdown
> > in the menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms
> > CONTROLS[snip]
>
> You likely have your subform controls named the same as the forms within
> them (which is typical).  What you see in the list are the controls as the
> forms within the subform controls are never shown in that list.
>
> --
> I don't check the Email account attached
> to this message.     Send instead to...
> RBrandt    at       Hunter      dot      com
>
>

"Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| No, I don't have them named the same.  I read a really excellent article
| yesterday by Roger Carlson about why subforms can be confusing.  Once I
| bumped into this problem, I carefully named the pages objects  ContactPage
| and FundPage and left the forms with the Access default names,
frmContacts
| and frmFunds.  I've looked carefully at the list of objects in the menu
| dropdown.  There simply aren't any third objects associated with the two
| tabpages that each have a sub-form on them.
|
| Again, I'm beginning to suspect some corruption here.  Do you think it's
| time to start over?
| I will wait til I get a response to this notion that single-clicking on
| anything will bring up properties instead of selecting the thing.  There's
| some missing info or bad communication going on here somewhere.
|
| Thanks for taking time with this!
|
| "Rick Brandt" <rickbran***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:381640F5g9ntgU1@individual.net...
| > Laurel wrote:
| > > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
| > > tabpages.  I successfully linked one of those subforms with the
| > > master by doing something with the mouse that got me to a property
| > > list where the  "data" tabpage included "master link" and "child
| > > link"  (I THINK it was 'master'... might have been 'parent'.)
| > >
| > > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
| > > mouse/properties somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't
| > > link the second subform to the master because I can't get at that
| > > particular property list.
| > >
| > > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The first
| > > subform is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second
| > > is not.
| > >
| > > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the dropdown
| > > in the menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms
| > > CONTROLS[snip]
| >
| > You likely have your subform controls named the same as the forms within
| > them (which is typical).  What you see in the list are the controls as
the
| > forms within the subform controls are never shown in that list.
| >
| > --
| > I don't check the Email account attached
| > to this message.     Send instead to...
| > RBrandt    at       Hunter      dot      com

"DebbieG" <debbieg@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:OM1bLYRGFHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Single-clicking does not bring up properties (unless the Properties are
> already displayed for another control).  Once a control is selected, you
can
> then bring up the properties by going to View Properties, pressing F4,
> clicking the Properties button on the Toolbar, OR right-clicking on the
> control selected and choosing Properties.
>
> In my answer to your previous post, I assumed that you knew how to display
> the Properties.
>
> Debbie
>
>
> "Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23FZ8WDQGFHA.2676@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | No, I don't have them named the same.  I read a really excellent article
> | yesterday by Roger Carlson about why subforms can be confusing.  Once I
> | bumped into this problem, I carefully named the pages objects
ContactPage
> | and FundPage and left the forms with the Access default names,
> frmContacts
> | and frmFunds.  I've looked carefully at the list of objects in the menu
> | dropdown.  There simply aren't any third objects associated with the two
> | tabpages that each have a sub-form on them.
> |
> | Again, I'm beginning to suspect some corruption here.  Do you think it's
> | time to start over?
> | I will wait til I get a response to this notion that single-clicking on
> | anything will bring up properties instead of selecting the thing.
There's
> | some missing info or bad communication going on here somewhere.
> |
> | Thanks for taking time with this!
> |
> | "Rick Brandt" <rickbran***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | news:381640F5g9ntgU1@individual.net...
> | > Laurel wrote:
> | > > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
> | > > tabpages.  I successfully linked one of those subforms with the
> | > > master by doing something with the mouse that got me to a property
> | > > list where the  "data" tabpage included "master link" and "child
> | > > link"  (I THINK it was 'master'... might have been 'parent'.)
> | > >
> | > > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
> | > > mouse/properties somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't
> | > > link the second subform to the master because I can't get at that
> | > > particular property list.
> | > >
> | > > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The first
> | > > subform is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second
> | > > is not.
> | > >
> | > > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the dropdown
> | > > in the menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms
> | > > CONTROLS[snip]
> | >
> | > You likely have your subform controls named the same as the forms
within
> | > them (which is typical).  What you see in the list are the controls as
> the
> | > forms within the subform controls are never shown in that list.
> | >
> | > --
> | > I don't check the Email account attached
> | > to this message.     Send instead to...
> | > RBrandt    at       Hunter      dot      com
>

"Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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|I think I do know how to display properties.  I just didn't know that in
the
| case of a subform, the way that I usually use (rightmouse/properties)
didn't
| work.
|
| "DebbieG" <debbieg@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote in message
| news:OM1bLYRGFHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > Single-clicking does not bring up properties (unless the Properties are
| > already displayed for another control).  Once a control is selected, you
| can
| > then bring up the properties by going to View Properties, pressing F4,
| > clicking the Properties button on the Toolbar, OR right-clicking on the
| > control selected and choosing Properties.
| >
| > In my answer to your previous post, I assumed that you knew how to
display
| > the Properties.
| >
| > Debbie
| >
| >
| > "Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > news:%23FZ8WDQGFHA.2676@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > | No, I don't have them named the same.  I read a really excellent
article
| > | yesterday by Roger Carlson about why subforms can be confusing.  Once
I
| > | bumped into this problem, I carefully named the pages objects
| ContactPage
| > | and FundPage and left the forms with the Access default names,
| > frmContacts
| > | and frmFunds.  I've looked carefully at the list of objects in the
menu
| > | dropdown.  There simply aren't any third objects associated with the
two
| > | tabpages that each have a sub-form on them.
| > |
| > | Again, I'm beginning to suspect some corruption here.  Do you think
it's
| > | time to start over?
| > | I will wait til I get a response to this notion that single-clicking
on
| > | anything will bring up properties instead of selecting the thing.
| There's
| > | some missing info or bad communication going on here somewhere.
| > |
| > | Thanks for taking time with this!
| > |
| > | "Rick Brandt" <rickbran***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:381640F5g9ntgU1@individual.net...
| > | > Laurel wrote:
| > | > > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
| > | > > tabpages.  I successfully linked one of those subforms with the
| > | > > master by doing something with the mouse that got me to a property
| > | > > list where the  "data" tabpage included "master link" and "child
| > | > > link"  (I THINK it was 'master'... might have been 'parent'.)
| > | > >
| > | > > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
| > | > > mouse/properties somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't
| > | > > link the second subform to the master because I can't get at that
| > | > > particular property list.
| > | > >
| > | > > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The
first
| > | > > subform is in synch with the records on the master form.  The
second
| > | > > is not.
| > | > >
| > | > > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the
dropdown
| > | > > in the menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see
subforms
| > | > > CONTROLS[snip]
| > | >
| > | > You likely have your subform controls named the same as the forms
| within
| > | > them (which is typical).  What you see in the list are the controls
as
| > the
| > | > forms within the subform controls are never shown in that list.
| > | >
| > | > --
| > | > I don't check the Email account attached
| > | > to this message.     Send instead to...
| > | > RBrandt    at       Hunter      dot      com
| >
|
|

"DebbieG" <debbieg@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote in message
news:eh27oNSGFHA.3928@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> I have no problem using the right-mouse to display the properties for a
> subform control.  I still don't understand why you're having problems with
> that.
>
>
> "Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uwJxzFSGFHA.3504@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> |I think I do know how to display properties.  I just didn't know that in
> the
> | case of a subform, the way that I usually use (rightmouse/properties)
> didn't
> | work.
> |
> | "DebbieG" <debbieg@NOSPAM.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> | news:OM1bLYRGFHA.1396@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | > Single-clicking does not bring up properties (unless the Properties
are
> | > already displayed for another control).  Once a control is selected,
you
> | can
> | > then bring up the properties by going to View Properties, pressing F4,
> | > clicking the Properties button on the Toolbar, OR right-clicking on
the
> | > control selected and choosing Properties.
> | >
> | > In my answer to your previous post, I assumed that you knew how to
> display
> | > the Properties.
> | >
> | > Debbie
> | >
> | >
> | > "Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > news:%23FZ8WDQGFHA.2676@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | > | No, I don't have them named the same.  I read a really excellent
> article
> | > | yesterday by Roger Carlson about why subforms can be confusing.
Once
> I
> | > | bumped into this problem, I carefully named the pages objects
> | ContactPage
> | > | and FundPage and left the forms with the Access default names,
> | > frmContacts
> | > | and frmFunds.  I've looked carefully at the list of objects in the
> menu
> | > | dropdown.  There simply aren't any third objects associated with the
> two
> | > | tabpages that each have a sub-form on them.
> | > |
> | > | Again, I'm beginning to suspect some corruption here.  Do you think
> it's
> | > | time to start over?
> | > | I will wait til I get a response to this notion that single-clicking
> on
> | > | anything will bring up properties instead of selecting the thing.
> | There's
> | > | some missing info or bad communication going on here somewhere.
> | > |
> | > | Thanks for taking time with this!
> | > |
> | > | "Rick Brandt" <rickbran***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> | > | news:381640F5g9ntgU1@individual.net...
> | > | > Laurel wrote:
> | > | > > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
> | > | > > tabpages.  I successfully linked one of those subforms with the
> | > | > > master by doing something with the mouse that got me to a
property
> | > | > > list where the  "data" tabpage included "master link" and "child
> | > | > > link"  (I THINK it was 'master'... might have been 'parent'.)
> | > | > >
> | > | > > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
> | > | > > mouse/properties somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I
can't
> | > | > > link the second subform to the master because I can't get at
that
> | > | > > particular property list.
> | > | > >
> | > | > > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The
> first
> | > | > > subform is in synch with the records on the master form.  The
> second
> | > | > > is not.
> | > | > >
> | > | > > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the
> dropdown
> | > | > > in the menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see
> subforms
> | > | > > CONTROLS[snip]
> | > | >
> | > | > You likely have your subform controls named the same as the forms
> | within
> | > | > them (which is typical).  What you see in the list are the
controls
> as
> | > the
> | > | > forms within the subform controls are never shown in that list.
> | > | >
> | > | > --
> | > | > I don't check the Email account attached
> | > | > to this message.     Send instead to...
> | > | > RBrandt    at       Hunter      dot      com
> | >
> |
> |
>

"Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%23FZ8WDQGFHA.2676@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> No, I don't have them named the same.  I read a really excellent article
> yesterday by Roger Carlson about why subforms can be confusing.  Once I
> bumped into this problem, I carefully named the pages objects  ContactPage
> and FundPage and left the forms with the Access default names,
> frmContacts
> and frmFunds.  I've looked carefully at the list of objects in the menu
> dropdown.  There simply aren't any third objects associated with the two
> tabpages that each have a sub-form on them.
>
> Again, I'm beginning to suspect some corruption here.  Do you think it's
> time to start over?
> I will wait til I get a response to this notion that single-clicking on
> anything will bring up properties instead of selecting the thing.  There's
> some missing info or bad communication going on here somewhere.
>
> Thanks for taking time with this!
>
> "Rick Brandt" <rickbran***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:381640F5g9ntgU1@individual.net...
>> Laurel wrote:
>> > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
>> > tabpages.  I successfully linked one of those subforms with the
>> > master by doing something with the mouse that got me to a property
>> > list where the  "data" tabpage included "master link" and "child
>> > link"  (I THINK it was 'master'... might have been 'parent'.)
>> >
>> > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
>> > mouse/properties somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't
>> > link the second subform to the master because I can't get at that
>> > particular property list.
>> >
>> > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The first
>> > subform is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second
>> > is not.
>> >
>> > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the dropdown
>> > in the menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms
>> > CONTROLS[snip]
>>
>> You likely have your subform controls named the same as the forms within
>> them (which is typical).  What you see in the list are the controls as
>> the
>> forms within the subform controls are never shown in that list.
>>
>> --
>> I don't check the Email account attached
>> to this message.     Send instead to...
>> RBrandt    at       Hunter      dot      com
>>
>>
>
>

> > No, I don't have them named the same.  I read a really excellent article
> > yesterday by Roger Carlson about why subforms can be confusing.  Once I
> > bumped into this problem, I carefully named the pages objects
ContactPage
> > and FundPage and left the forms with the Access default names,
> > frmContacts
> > and frmFunds.  I've looked carefully at the list of objects in the menu
> > dropdown.  There simply aren't any third objects associated with the two
> > tabpages that each have a sub-form on them.


"david epsom dot com dot au" <david@epsomdotcomdotau> wrote in message
news:uZzPwdVGFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> You seem to have some confusion between your tab pages and your
> subform controls and your forms?
>
> pages should be called page
> subform controls should be called sbfxxxxxx
> forms should be called .....
>
> From your description, it appears that in the list of controls
> you can see your page controls and your subform controls. The
> subform controls have the same names as the subforms.
>
> BTW, if you open the subform in design view FIRST, then open
> the main form in design view, you don't get the subform stuck
> inside the subform control.
>
> (david)
>
>
> "Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23FZ8WDQGFHA.2676@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > No, I don't have them named the same.  I read a really excellent article
> > yesterday by Roger Carlson about why subforms can be confusing.  Once I
> > bumped into this problem, I carefully named the pages objects
ContactPage
> > and FundPage and left the forms with the Access default names,
> > frmContacts
> > and frmFunds.  I've looked carefully at the list of objects in the menu
> > dropdown.  There simply aren't any third objects associated with the two
> > tabpages that each have a sub-form on them.
> >
> > Again, I'm beginning to suspect some corruption here.  Do you think it's
> > time to start over?
> > I will wait til I get a response to this notion that single-clicking on
> > anything will bring up properties instead of selecting the thing.
There's
> > some missing info or bad communication going on here somewhere.
> >
> > Thanks for taking time with this!
> >
> > "Rick Brandt" <rickbran***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:381640F5g9ntgU1@individual.net...
> >> Laurel wrote:
> >> > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
> >> > tabpages.  I successfully linked one of those subforms with the
> >> > master by doing something with the mouse that got me to a property
> >> > list where the  "data" tabpage included "master link" and "child
> >> > link"  (I THINK it was 'master'... might have been 'parent'.)
> >> >
> >> > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
> >> > mouse/properties somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't
> >> > link the second subform to the master because I can't get at that
> >> > particular property list.
> >> >
> >> > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The first
> >> > subform is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second
> >> > is not.
> >> >
> >> > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the dropdown
> >> > in the menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms
> >> > CONTROLS[snip]
> >>
> >> You likely have your subform controls named the same as the forms
within
> >> them (which is typical).  What you see in the list are the controls as
> >> the
> >> forms within the subform controls are never shown in that list.
> >>
> >> --
> >> I don't check the Email account attached
> >> to this message.     Send instead to...
> >> RBrandt    at       Hunter      dot      com
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

"Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%239KNXmdGFHA.3964@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> You seem to have some confusion between your tab pages and your
>> subform controls and your forms?
>
> No, I don't think so.  Perhaps you didn't notice my explanation embedded
> in
> the
> thread.  It seems that my system is behaving differently than it should.
> I've found a work-around by using the menu at the top to get at the
> properties wndow for he control.
>
>> > No, I don't have them named the same.  I read a really excellent
>> > article
>> > yesterday by Roger Carlson about why subforms can be confusing.  Once I
>> > bumped into this problem, I carefully named the pages objects
> ContactPage
>> > and FundPage and left the forms with the Access default names,
>> > frmContacts
>> > and frmFunds.  I've looked carefully at the list of objects in the menu
>> > dropdown.  There simply aren't any third objects associated with the
>> > two
>> > tabpages that each have a sub-form on them.
>
>
> "david epsom dot com dot au" <david@epsomdotcomdotau> wrote in message
> news:uZzPwdVGFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> You seem to have some confusion between your tab pages and your
>> subform controls and your forms?
>>
>> pages should be called page
>> subform controls should be called sbfxxxxxx
>> forms should be called .....
>>
>> From your description, it appears that in the list of controls
>> you can see your page controls and your subform controls. The
>> subform controls have the same names as the subforms.
>>
>> BTW, if you open the subform in design view FIRST, then open
>> the main form in design view, you don't get the subform stuck
>> inside the subform control.
>>
>> (david)
>>
>>
>> "Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23FZ8WDQGFHA.2676@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > No, I don't have them named the same.  I read a really excellent
>> > article
>> > yesterday by Roger Carlson about why subforms can be confusing.  Once I
>> > bumped into this problem, I carefully named the pages objects
> ContactPage
>> > and FundPage and left the forms with the Access default names,
>> > frmContacts
>> > and frmFunds.  I've looked carefully at the list of objects in the menu
>> > dropdown.  There simply aren't any third objects associated with the
>> > two
>> > tabpages that each have a sub-form on them.
>> >
>> > Again, I'm beginning to suspect some corruption here.  Do you think
>> > it's
>> > time to start over?
>> > I will wait til I get a response to this notion that single-clicking on
>> > anything will bring up properties instead of selecting the thing.
> There's
>> > some missing info or bad communication going on here somewhere.
>> >
>> > Thanks for taking time with this!
>> >
>> > "Rick Brandt" <rickbran***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:381640F5g9ntgU1@individual.net...
>> >> Laurel wrote:
>> >> > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
>> >> > tabpages.  I successfully linked one of those subforms with the
>> >> > master by doing something with the mouse that got me to a property
>> >> > list where the  "data" tabpage included "master link" and "child
>> >> > link"  (I THINK it was 'master'... might have been 'parent'.)
>> >> >
>> >> > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
>> >> > mouse/properties somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't
>> >> > link the second subform to the master because I can't get at that
>> >> > particular property list.
>> >> >
>> >> > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The first
>> >> > subform is in synch with the records on the master form.  The second
>> >> > is not.
>> >> >
>> >> > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the dropdown
>> >> > in the menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see subforms
>> >> > CONTROLS[snip]
>> >>
>> >> You likely have your subform controls named the same as the forms
> within
>> >> them (which is typical).  What you see in the list are the controls as
>> >> the
>> >> forms within the subform controls are never shown in that list.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> I don't check the Email account attached
>> >> to this message.     Send instead to...
>> >> RBrandt    at       Hunter      dot      com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

> >> > I've looked carefully at the list of objects in the menu
> >> > dropdown.  There simply aren't any third objects associated with the
> >> > two


"david epsom dot com dot au" <david@epsomdotcomdotau> wrote in message
news:%23QcAOcgGFHA.2356@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >I don't think so.  Perhaps you didn't notice my explanation
>
> I read that, and it doesn't support your argument:
>
> You mention renaming the page objects and not
> finding third objects.
>
> Perhaps you meant that you had renamed the subform
> controls and could not find the page objects?
>
> I'm glad that you have found the subform control
> properties, and I'm certain that eventually you
> will sort out the nomenclature :)
>
> BTW, subforms are quite slow. I never have a default
> subform in a tabbed page unless the page is visible.
> I load the subform in the subform control only when
> the page becomes visible.  Actually, in many places
> I place a single subform control /below/ the tabbed
> pages, and load a different form into the control
> for each page. It's a bit fiddly to get the layout
> correct for a single subform control beneath a tab
> control, but it does look ok after some effort.
>
> (david)
>
>
>
> "Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%239KNXmdGFHA.3964@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> You seem to have some confusion between your tab pages and your
> >> subform controls and your forms?
> >
> > No, I don't think so.  Perhaps you didn't notice my explanation embedded
> > in
> > the
> > thread.  It seems that my system is behaving differently than it should.
> > I've found a work-around by using the menu at the top to get at the
> > properties wndow for he control.
> >
> >> > No, I don't have them named the same.  I read a really excellent
> >> > article
> >> > yesterday by Roger Carlson about why subforms can be confusing.  Once
I
> >> > bumped into this problem, I carefully named the pages objects
> > ContactPage
> >> > and FundPage and left the forms with the Access default names,
> >> > frmContacts
> >> > and frmFunds.  I've looked carefully at the list of objects in the
menu
> >> > dropdown.  There simply aren't any third objects associated with the
> >> > two
> >> > tabpages that each have a sub-form on them.
> >
> >
> > "david epsom dot com dot au" <david@epsomdotcomdotau> wrote in message
> > news:uZzPwdVGFHA.2736@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> You seem to have some confusion between your tab pages and your
> >> subform controls and your forms?
> >>
> >> pages should be called page
> >> subform controls should be called sbfxxxxxx
> >> forms should be called .....
> >>
> >> From your description, it appears that in the list of controls
> >> you can see your page controls and your subform controls. The
> >> subform controls have the same names as the subforms.
> >>
> >> BTW, if you open the subform in design view FIRST, then open
> >> the main form in design view, you don't get the subform stuck
> >> inside the subform control.
> >>
> >> (david)
> >>
> >>
> >> "Laurel" <FakeM***@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23FZ8WDQGFHA.2676@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> > No, I don't have them named the same.  I read a really excellent
> >> > article
> >> > yesterday by Roger Carlson about why subforms can be confusing.  Once
I
> >> > bumped into this problem, I carefully named the pages objects
> > ContactPage
> >> > and FundPage and left the forms with the Access default names,
> >> > frmContacts
> >> > and frmFunds.  I've looked carefully at the list of objects in the
menu
> >> > dropdown.  There simply aren't any third objects associated with the
> >> > two
> >> > tabpages that each have a sub-form on them.
> >> >
> >> > Again, I'm beginning to suspect some corruption here.  Do you think
> >> > it's
> >> > time to start over?
> >> > I will wait til I get a response to this notion that single-clicking
on
> >> > anything will bring up properties instead of selecting the thing.
> > There's
> >> > some missing info or bad communication going on here somewhere.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for taking time with this!
> >> >
> >> > "Rick Brandt" <rickbran***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:381640F5g9ntgU1@individual.net...
> >> >> Laurel wrote:
> >> >> > I have a form with 4 tabpages.  I have subforms on two of those
> >> >> > tabpages.  I successfully linked one of those subforms with the
> >> >> > master by doing something with the mouse that got me to a property
> >> >> > list where the  "data" tabpage included "master link" and "child
> >> >> > link"  (I THINK it was 'master'... might have been 'parent'.)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My problem is that I don't know exactly what I did (right
> >> >> > mouse/properties somewhere - just don't know where).  Now I can't
> >> >> > link the second subform to the master because I can't get at that
> >> >> > particular property list.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I know I'm not imagining that I did it succesfully once.  The
first
> >> >> > subform is in synch with the records on the master form.  The
second
> >> >> > is not.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Someone suggested that I can see all of the controls in the
dropdown
> >> >> > in the menu.  I see tabpages and subforms, but I don't see
subforms
> >> >> > CONTROLS[snip]
> >> >>
> >> >> You likely have your subform controls named the same as the forms
> > within
> >> >> them (which is typical).  What you see in the list are the controls
as
> >> >> the
> >> >> forms within the subform controls are never shown in that list.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> I don't check the Email account attached
> >> >> to this message.     Send instead to...
> >> >> RBrandt    at       Hunter      dot      com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>