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21 Nov 2007 3:12 PM
mcnews
anybody willing to share a name parsing routine?
tia,
mcnewsxp

Author
21 Nov 2007 5:41 PM
Roger Converse
I have a couple.  What format are the names in?

Basically it would look something like this for:

Last, First MI

SELECT [Conversion Data].[SS#] AS Expr1, [Conversion Data].Name AS Expr2,
InStr(1,[Name],', ') AS LFind, Mid([Name],1,[LFind]-1) AS [Last],
InStr([LFind]+2,[Name],'    ') AS FFind,
IIf([FFind]=0,Mid([Name],[LFind]+2),Mid([Name],[LFind]+2,[FFind]-[LFind]-2))
AS [First], IIf([FFind]=0,Null,Mid([Name],[FFind]+1)) AS Middle
FROM [Conversion Data];


If you let me know the format, I can easily tailor the query.

Thanks,
Roger

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"mcnews" wrote:

> anybody willing to share a name parsing routine?
> tia,
> mcnewsxp
>
Author
21 Nov 2007 6:57 PM
Klatuu
Roger's solution will probably be fairly close; however, you will not find
any name parser that can handle every possible name.  It is second only to
parsing street addresses in frustration.
Here are some sticky ones:

Hyphenated names:

Rebbeca Crouton-Rimshot

First or Last names with spaces:

Farley Mojo St. James

names with multiple middle names:

James Edwin Autin Healy

confusing ones:

Benjiman Frank Junior

Is the last name Frank or Junior?

And a real life example in an application I did in a different version of
Basic with addresses.  To write the code, we used the USPS addressing rules
on how to read addresses.
There are prefixes: West, South, NorthEast, etc.
There are suffixes: same thing
There are street types:  Boulevard, Street, Road, etc.  with corresponding
abbreviations.

So in testing we found a street address in Houston Texas that is a real
address:

400 West Loop South

It failed because West is a prefix, Loop is a street type, and South is a
suffix.
The street name is actually West Loop and South is actually the suffix, but
when parsing it could not find a street name.

--
Dave Hargis, Microsoft Access MVP


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"mcnews" wrote:

> anybody willing to share a name parsing routine?
> tia,
> mcnewsxp
>
Author
21 Nov 2007 8:28 PM
Roger Converse
Great point, Dave.  I probably should have mentioned that there will almost
always be issues because of names like "Mary Beth".  In my example below, I
think Beth would end up as the middle name.

Thanks,
Roger

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"Klatuu" wrote:

> Roger's solution will probably be fairly close; however, you will not find
> any name parser that can handle every possible name.  It is second only to
> parsing street addresses in frustration.
> Here are some sticky ones:
>
> Hyphenated names:
>
> Rebbeca Crouton-Rimshot
>
> First or Last names with spaces:
>
> Farley Mojo St. James
>
> names with multiple middle names:
>
> James Edwin Autin Healy
>
> confusing ones:
>
> Benjiman Frank Junior
>
> Is the last name Frank or Junior?
>
> And a real life example in an application I did in a different version of
> Basic with addresses.  To write the code, we used the USPS addressing rules
> on how to read addresses.
> There are prefixes: West, South, NorthEast, etc.
> There are suffixes: same thing
> There are street types:  Boulevard, Street, Road, etc.  with corresponding
> abbreviations.
>
> So in testing we found a street address in Houston Texas that is a real
> address:
>
> 400 West Loop South
>
> It failed because West is a prefix, Loop is a street type, and South is a
> suffix.
> The street name is actually West Loop and South is actually the suffix, but
> when parsing it could not find a street name.
>
> --
> Dave Hargis, Microsoft Access MVP
>
>
> "mcnews" wrote:
>
> > anybody willing to share a name parsing routine?
> > tia,
> > mcnewsxp
> >
Author
21 Nov 2007 8:32 PM
Klatuu
Roger,
Hope you didn't think I was critizing your work.  Not at all.  I just wanted
the OP to be aware of the issues.

I just realized my brother's home address would give an address parser fits:

xxxxx Silverwood Bend Lane

--
Dave Hargis, Microsoft Access MVP


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"Roger Converse" wrote:

> Great point, Dave.  I probably should have mentioned that there will almost
> always be issues because of names like "Mary Beth".  In my example below, I
> think Beth would end up as the middle name.
>
> Thanks,
> Roger
>
> "Klatuu" wrote:
>
> > Roger's solution will probably be fairly close; however, you will not find
> > any name parser that can handle every possible name.  It is second only to
> > parsing street addresses in frustration.
> > Here are some sticky ones:
> >
> > Hyphenated names:
> >
> > Rebbeca Crouton-Rimshot
> >
> > First or Last names with spaces:
> >
> > Farley Mojo St. James
> >
> > names with multiple middle names:
> >
> > James Edwin Autin Healy
> >
> > confusing ones:
> >
> > Benjiman Frank Junior
> >
> > Is the last name Frank or Junior?
> >
> > And a real life example in an application I did in a different version of
> > Basic with addresses.  To write the code, we used the USPS addressing rules
> > on how to read addresses.
> > There are prefixes: West, South, NorthEast, etc.
> > There are suffixes: same thing
> > There are street types:  Boulevard, Street, Road, etc.  with corresponding
> > abbreviations.
> >
> > So in testing we found a street address in Houston Texas that is a real
> > address:
> >
> > 400 West Loop South
> >
> > It failed because West is a prefix, Loop is a street type, and South is a
> > suffix.
> > The street name is actually West Loop and South is actually the suffix, but
> > when parsing it could not find a street name.
> >
> > --
> > Dave Hargis, Microsoft Access MVP
> >
> >
> > "mcnews" wrote:
> >
> > > anybody willing to share a name parsing routine?
> > > tia,
> > > mcnewsxp
> > >
Author
21 Nov 2007 8:38 PM
Roger Converse
I did not think that at all.  I do not have a ton of experience, so I don't
get to answer many posts, but when I can I try to "give back".  Again, I am
glad you brought that up, because surely that will be an issue.

Funny about your brother's address and I am a Junior, so my name doesn't
exactly work either, and I still forgot.

Thanks,
Roger

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"Klatuu" wrote:

> Roger,
> Hope you didn't think I was critizing your work.  Not at all.  I just wanted
> the OP to be aware of the issues.
>
> I just realized my brother's home address would give an address parser fits:
>
> xxxxx Silverwood Bend Lane
>
> --
> Dave Hargis, Microsoft Access MVP
>
>
> "Roger Converse" wrote:
>
> > Great point, Dave.  I probably should have mentioned that there will almost
> > always be issues because of names like "Mary Beth".  In my example below, I
> > think Beth would end up as the middle name.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Roger
> >
> > "Klatuu" wrote:
> >
> > > Roger's solution will probably be fairly close; however, you will not find
> > > any name parser that can handle every possible name.  It is second only to
> > > parsing street addresses in frustration.
> > > Here are some sticky ones:
> > >
> > > Hyphenated names:
> > >
> > > Rebbeca Crouton-Rimshot
> > >
> > > First or Last names with spaces:
> > >
> > > Farley Mojo St. James
> > >
> > > names with multiple middle names:
> > >
> > > James Edwin Autin Healy
> > >
> > > confusing ones:
> > >
> > > Benjiman Frank Junior
> > >
> > > Is the last name Frank or Junior?
> > >
> > > And a real life example in an application I did in a different version of
> > > Basic with addresses.  To write the code, we used the USPS addressing rules
> > > on how to read addresses.
> > > There are prefixes: West, South, NorthEast, etc.
> > > There are suffixes: same thing
> > > There are street types:  Boulevard, Street, Road, etc.  with corresponding
> > > abbreviations.
> > >
> > > So in testing we found a street address in Houston Texas that is a real
> > > address:
> > >
> > > 400 West Loop South
> > >
> > > It failed because West is a prefix, Loop is a street type, and South is a
> > > suffix.
> > > The street name is actually West Loop and South is actually the suffix, but
> > > when parsing it could not find a street name.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Dave Hargis, Microsoft Access MVP
> > >
> > >
> > > "mcnews" wrote:
> > >
> > > > anybody willing to share a name parsing routine?
> > > > tia,
> > > > mcnewsxp
> > > >
Author
21 Nov 2007 8:42 PM
Klatuu
Experience doesn't matter if you know the answer.
You will still see me ask a question once in a while when I get into an area
I haven't been in before.  For example, I am doing my first ever adp.  It is
like a different world.  Some code I have been carrying around for years that
is universal stuff doesn't work now.
--
Dave Hargis, Microsoft Access MVP


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"Roger Converse" wrote:

> I did not think that at all.  I do not have a ton of experience, so I don't
> get to answer many posts, but when I can I try to "give back".  Again, I am
> glad you brought that up, because surely that will be an issue.
>
> Funny about your brother's address and I am a Junior, so my name doesn't
> exactly work either, and I still forgot.
>
> Thanks,
> Roger
>
> "Klatuu" wrote:
>
> > Roger,
> > Hope you didn't think I was critizing your work.  Not at all.  I just wanted
> > the OP to be aware of the issues.
> >
> > I just realized my brother's home address would give an address parser fits:
> >
> > xxxxx Silverwood Bend Lane
> >
> > --
> > Dave Hargis, Microsoft Access MVP
> >
> >
> > "Roger Converse" wrote:
> >
> > > Great point, Dave.  I probably should have mentioned that there will almost
> > > always be issues because of names like "Mary Beth".  In my example below, I
> > > think Beth would end up as the middle name.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Roger
> > >
> > > "Klatuu" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Roger's solution will probably be fairly close; however, you will not find
> > > > any name parser that can handle every possible name.  It is second only to
> > > > parsing street addresses in frustration.
> > > > Here are some sticky ones:
> > > >
> > > > Hyphenated names:
> > > >
> > > > Rebbeca Crouton-Rimshot
> > > >
> > > > First or Last names with spaces:
> > > >
> > > > Farley Mojo St. James
> > > >
> > > > names with multiple middle names:
> > > >
> > > > James Edwin Autin Healy
> > > >
> > > > confusing ones:
> > > >
> > > > Benjiman Frank Junior
> > > >
> > > > Is the last name Frank or Junior?
> > > >
> > > > And a real life example in an application I did in a different version of
> > > > Basic with addresses.  To write the code, we used the USPS addressing rules
> > > > on how to read addresses.
> > > > There are prefixes: West, South, NorthEast, etc.
> > > > There are suffixes: same thing
> > > > There are street types:  Boulevard, Street, Road, etc.  with corresponding
> > > > abbreviations.
> > > >
> > > > So in testing we found a street address in Houston Texas that is a real
> > > > address:
> > > >
> > > > 400 West Loop South
> > > >
> > > > It failed because West is a prefix, Loop is a street type, and South is a
> > > > suffix.
> > > > The street name is actually West Loop and South is actually the suffix, but
> > > > when parsing it could not find a street name.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Dave Hargis, Microsoft Access MVP
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "mcnews" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > anybody willing to share a name parsing routine?
> > > > > tia,
> > > > > mcnewsxp
> > > > >

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