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Score Newbie q - trouble deploying
Peter Morris - 12 Aug 2006 10:40 PM - 8 messages
Newbie here, trying to build my first website. I bought my domain name from one company. Then I paid a different company for web hosting. I've uploaded my ASP.NET files to my host,  entered my URL in my browser and... it goes to a page advertising the company ...
Score OOP question about properties & methods
Bruce One - 12 Aug 2006 9:41 PM - 18 messages
Lets consider a class called Currency. This class must be the responsible for taking care of all calculations over currency exchanges, in such a way that I pass values in Euros and it returns the converted value in Dollar for ...
Score How to unescape HTML string
Sebastian Mark - 12 Aug 2006 7:06 PM - 4 messages
I have a simple question, is there an easy way in .NET to unescape HTML characters? for example I have a string "Siebel Analytics Sr Consultant-"Partner w/ Deloitte & have the oppty to become a Partner"" ...
Score Are there any INTRINSIC advantages of the C# language over VB.NET?
Bob Rosen - 12 Aug 2006 5:59 PM - 12 messages
I have used VB.NET for several months.  Just recently I was asked to modify some web pages that were developed with C#.  Although I know that C# is much more popular, in comparing the two all of the advantages that I have come ...
Score Modify myApp.exe.config from code
Michael - 12 Aug 2006 4:04 PM - 2 messages
Hi, I'm wondering if somebody knows how to change the application config file from code. I just need to change a value in the appSettings section from "true" to "false", but it doesn't seem like it's easy to do. ...
Score Static Vs. Instance
Dinsdale - 11 Aug 2006 9:28 PM - 6 messages
I was discussing class architecture with one of the senior developers at my new job and him and I have a similar idea on how to work with data access and class libraries. That said, our implementations vary slightly and I wanted to post the question to the .Net community to get ...
Score Global renaming of files
Jaymac - 11 Aug 2006 8:55 PM - 2 messages
Hi folks I have some 1600 files where the first 7 characters of each file name is in the format "CN NNN ".  I would like to be able to change these via a program to the format "CN-NNN-".  The files are actually hymns and these 7 characters ...
Score Problem w/ Simple Serialization
Ron M. Newman - 11 Aug 2006 8:54 PM - 3 messages
Hi, I have a simple class that has a Hashtable. the hashtable has a couple of key/value pairs where the key is a string and the value is also a strong. I have [Serializable] at the top of that class. ...
Score update button
bindurajeesh - 11 Aug 2006 7:59 PM - 2 messages
I have a webform that has 50 fields to possibly update.  Instead of updateing every field for that record when the user changes one or two pieces of info I would like to only update the fields that the user updated.  I am attempting ...
Score Display device list
ThunderMusic - 11 Aug 2006 7:16 PM - 6 messages
Hi, I want to have a list of the display devices available on the computer, just like the Settings tab do in the desktop properties... What I need is the DeviceID, it's rectangle(left, top, width, height) and if it's active or ...
Score Custom DateTime serialization
Zachary Turner - 11 Aug 2006 3:55 PM - 4 messages
Hello, I have a situation where I would like to perform custom serialization and deserialization of an existing .NET framework object (specifically, System.DateTime).  Is there a common paradigm here, for how I can override the default behavior of DateTime serialization and provide my ...
Score Windows service on a cluster
ThunderMusic - 11 Aug 2006 3:00 PM - 5 messages
Hi, We have many servers setup as a cluster. When one server crashes, another one take the relay... We want to know if it's possible (I suppose it is) to make a Windows service developed with .NET 2.0 work in a cluster ...
Score How to: issue a shutdown/restart?
Rob R. Ainscough - 11 Aug 2006 3:00 PM - 3 messages
Any hints on how have a .NET app issue a shutdown/restart? Thanks Rob. ...
Score Error Writing to Event Log
Jerry C - 11 Aug 2006 2:28 PM - 10 messages
I am trying to write to the errorlog and I am getting the error Cannot open log for source 'Application'. You may not have write access. This is the code: Dim Logevent As New EventLog("Application")   Logevent.Source = "Application" ...
Score how do I get the MAC Address given the IP
MMA - 11 Aug 2006 1:33 PM - 7 messages
Hi All, Any ideas how can I get the MAC address of a PC outside my lan given the IP. I tried using iphlpapi.dll to call sendARP but dosen't work for outside my lan. Thanks in advance ...
Score Display a message with code running.
Mark - 11 Aug 2006 1:28 PM - 2 messages
I am diong a search on a computer (looking for files) and during this process I would like to have a message come up that says "Please wait..." but the message won't show until the end of the search.  How do I make it show as ...
Score Installing dotNET V2.0 (or not)
She - Devil - 11 Aug 2006 12:50 PM - 3 messages
Hi you all out there, Some months ago I installed dotNET Framework Version 1.1.  I Needed that for a program to work. Since a while I keep getting reminders from the Windows update site, there's an upgrade/update ...
Score DateTime problem
JFieseler - 11 Aug 2006 9:43 AM - 7 messages
Hi all, in a huge project i have the following problem. I create an object which contains many private members (i know that this is not correct, but it is a single use migration program). The members will be filled from database tables. In the fill method i see in debug mode the ...
Score Programming practices question
Maciek - 11 Aug 2006 7:44 AM - 5 messages
I've got this question regarding programming and design practices. I'm designing Newsletter module for my WebApp and I'm greenhorn in programming. There's a stored procedure which adds a subscriber to a DB. It outputs subscriberID (uniqueidetifier) if it succeeds to add them to the ...
Score Upgrading from .NET Framework 1.1 to 2.0
therod - 11 Aug 2006 3:44 AM - 8 messages
I am running Windows Server 2003 SP1 and .Net Framework 1.1 I want to upgrade to .Net 2.0 and I'm pretty sure I should uninstall 1.1 first.  Problem is that .NET 1.1 doesn't show up in Control ...
Score Regional Settings Problem
Luis Lanuza - 11 Aug 2006 2:08 AM - 2 messages
Hi all, I can't get Visual Studio 2003 to recognize my WindowsXP SP2 regional settings. For ex: On Control Panel / Regional Settings / Regional Options Tab, my standadrs and formats corresponds to English (United States), where for example, if you see on the Customize secction, the default decimal symbol is ...
Score .net grid
Bruce One - 11 Aug 2006 1:52 AM - 3 messages
Except for GridView that comes with VS2005, does anyone know excelent options, specially free ones? I would like to easily be able to create groups, categories etc ...
Score Microsoft paying Google for MSNBC?
clintonG - 11 Aug 2006 1:07 AM - 4 messages
How f*cked up and behind the curve do you have to be to use Google Earth on your own broadcasting network? <%= Clinton Gallagher         NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com         URL [link] ...
Score Managed / UnManaged code?
Cylix - 11 Aug 2006 12:57 AM - 2 messages
What is the difference between managed and un managed code in .NET? ...
Score closing } automatically
Bruce One - 10 Aug 2006 9:40 PM - 4 messages
Does anyone know a way to make the IDE close braces in Ifs statements (methods also) for C# ? In VB.NET you have an automatic closing... ...
Score where to start?
z - 10 Aug 2006 9:32 PM - 6 messages
Hi there: My target is to create a web site mainly for demonstration, information publication, with pictures, music. It may require a little information feedback  such as submit application forms from the users. The web page need to be looks quite fancy with some flashing picture. ...
Score SandCastle x NDoc 2.0
Bruce One - 10 Aug 2006 8:21 PM - 3 messages
Folks, Is anyone stuck like me, in choosing between SandCastle (the new MS doc support) and NDoc 2.0 framework? Ive downloaded NDoc 2.0 but it does not compile quite well. On the other hand, SandCastle seems to be too childish to use it for real in professional ...
Score Questoin about Assembly Reference
Ron M. Newman - 10 Aug 2006 7:20 PM - 2 messages
Hi, I have an assembly I created. I'd like to refer to it from another assembly. However, when I pick the "dll" for the reference I was wonder whether I should choose the debug or release version of the referred assembly DLL. There is no place to choose a ...
Score VS2005: Collapse Current [code] Region
Jordan S. - 10 Aug 2006 3:56 PM - 3 messages
VS 2005: What is the keyboard command, if one exists, that I can use to collapse the current code region (the one in which the cursor currently resides)? Thanks ...
Score Best documentation practices
maflatoun - 10 Aug 2006 3:20 PM - 2 messages
Hi everyone, Our company is growing rapidly and I have been hiring people to help me out with our ASP.NET development. I like to put in place some code documentation standards. I've been reading a little on what is required ...
Score system.IO.File.Exists doesn't working for file that is outside my virtual directory
Max - 10 Aug 2006 2:59 PM - 6 messages
hi i have file browser control to select any file and a button to upload file on my web page now when i select any file. now on click of upload button i have check that file exist or no ...
Score Changing global variables
JustinRU - 10 Aug 2006 2:33 PM - 2 messages
Hi, I'm pretty new to .NET and have (what I think) is a simple question.  I have a program that contains a datagrid, which is bound to different sql queries depending on search criteria.  I set an sqlStr string ...
Score ASP.Net Button Click Event
Steven J. Smith - 10 Aug 2006 12:07 PM - 4 messages
I have an ASP.Net web page with a button that works as anticipated 95% of the time.  I’ve had a few users report that clicking the button on their browser has no affect.  This appears to be a browser issue (ie6), but I’ve been ...
Score Compare Two Strings
twinkle - 10 Aug 2006 11:48 AM - 2 messages
HI guys             i have two strings .in first string a word file is there and the second string a html file is there.now i want to compare to ...
Score Throwing exceptions problem
J055 - 10 Aug 2006 9:56 AM - 11 messages
Hi I understand that a throw statement throws an exception immediately and unconditionally. Control never reaches the statement immediately following the throw. The following method seems to stop the statements (if Enum.IsDefined is false) after the throw and return null to the calling ...
Score Please help about the design pattern.
Cylix - 10 Aug 2006 1:44 AM - 2 messages
Please advise me the project struction with follow parts: 1. a stand alone program 2. a COM program integrated to MS WORD and OUTLOOK 3. a stand alone program using MS Explorer These three parts retrieve the same database and get simular value. ...
Score how to run an exe from asp.net
MMA - 9 Aug 2006 11:46 PM - 5 messages
Hi all, I treid using WScript, and System.Diagnostics.Process to run an exe from but neither worked with process.start I was getting an access denied exception. But I running it from my dev machine so I am a lost in regards to access ...
Score Deploying multiple EXE's using the basic publish mechanism of the
Al Christoph - 9 Aug 2006 8:13 PM - 22 messages
I posted this last week end in the MSDN forums. No luck there. Let's see what the experts here have to say:-)))) I have a rather convoluted project. The distributable will come in eight different flavors, each with its main program, libraries, datafiles, doco, ...
Score ConfigurationErrorException when reading protected config section
Ryan - 9 Aug 2006 7:16 PM - 11 messages
I've created a custom configuration section that inherits (naturally) from System.Configuration.ConfigurationSection.  The configuration section is working 99% fine, however I keep coming across a ConfigurationErrorException whenever I do the following: 1.  Modify and save the section in code using the ...
Score Enterprise Library for .Net Framework 1.1
Arne Garvander - 9 Aug 2006 7:05 PM - 2 messages
Is this a good place for asking question re Enterprise Library for .Net Framework 1.1? How can I get the Exception block to send an email for each exception? Is that built in? ...
Score datareaders and primary keys
bindurajeesh - 9 Aug 2006 5:45 PM - 2 messages
How do I capture the data in a primary key? strsql="select nameID,fname from tblname where fname = '" & txtFname.text & "' and lname = '" & txtlname.text & "'" objOleDBCommand.CommandText = strsql objoledbreader = objOleDbCommand.ExecuteReader() intname = objoledbreader.item("nameID") error "No data exists for the row/column ...
Score Localizable + PasswordChar = Handle error
Ryan - 9 Aug 2006 5:26 PM - 9 messages
I'm creating a user control that has a handful of controls on it (19 in total).  One of the controls on the UC is a textbox for a user's password, so I've set the PasswordChar property to "*".  I rebuild and all is well. ...
Score Getting the handler of an event with Reflection
Charles Bazi - 9 Aug 2006 5:17 PM - 6 messages
Hi, I have a base UserControl named UserControlEx. I have created an event, and a dummy handler. Then I create several UCs with UserControlEx base. Some of those have a handler for my custom event, others, no... I manage to have the list of events with EventInfo, but I'm unable to ...
Score How to run a command shell from an asp.net page
MMA - 9 Aug 2006 3:55 PM - 4 messages
Hi How to run a command shell from an asp.net page. Research has shown that I may use a either ASPEXEC or WSrcipt.Shell , is one better than the other, and is there any other way of doing this besides mentioned above. ...
Score Code Standard 2.0 new objects outside of Try Block
gabe - 9 Aug 2006 2:42 PM - 7 messages
I have question about code standards in VS 2005 I have been declaring objects before a try block in case I would ever want to refer to them in 'Catch' block. When I converted my apps to 2.0 I get warnings that objects have been declared, but not initialized. ...
Score How can i integrate the design tema with the developer team
Jose Manuel vilomar - 9 Aug 2006 2:16 PM - 4 messages
hi everybody.... Well this is my Question. I used to develop my applications in ASP .Net by myself.. I mean, the Design and the Develop task, using C# and VS.  But now, i'll have to let the design ...
Score Strange character transformations
CyberSpyders - 9 Aug 2006 1:02 PM - 2 messages
Hi, I have an ASP.Net website, which allows users to upload a file which is then inserted into a database. This is all fine until it reads a line with the string +Anu in it. It transforms this to this char  É»  (which, if Googled for, is ...
Score Querying an http request
MMA - 9 Aug 2006 12:40 PM - 5 messages
Hi, How do I extract the IP addresss and the MAC address of the sender of an http request. Thanks in advance ...
Score How to clone a refrenced type object?
Hamed - 9 Aug 2006 9:25 AM - 17 messages
Hello I am developing a utility to be reused in other programs. It I have an object of type Control (a TextBox, ComboBox, etc.) that other programmers use it in applications. they may set some of properties or assign event handlers. I need to be able to clone the manipulated control at ...
Score Creating Snippets
kevin.meers@cimcs.co.uk - 9 Aug 2006 9:23 AM - 5 messages
I know you can do this in VB.NET 2005 but I can't see where..... How do you create a code snippet so you can reuse it in the right click menu of the code designer? Thanks in advance. ...
Score API calls in VS.2005
Laurence - 9 Aug 2006 1:08 AM - 7 messages
How does one go about making api calls in VS.2005 (VB.NET)? Is there a book on API's for .NET like Dan's Appleman's API Book for VB? How do I do the declares, and calls? I am trying to do this: ...
Score WebClient.UploadData
Lehel Kovach - 8 Aug 2006 10:09 PM - 5 messages
I'm having a problem with the WebClient object.  When I post data to certain sites, it will receive a command from the webserver (object moved) and continue to the next link by downloading that.  The problem is, certain ...
Score Windows Servcice and multiple config files
herbert - 8 Aug 2006 9:06 PM - 2 messages
In VS.2005 a Windows Service can have an app.config file. A class library can also have an app.config file. Now if my Windows Services uses three class libraries, each of it coming with its own app.config file, in which sequence are the app config files read ...
Score Applying CSS to asp:ListItem
Merennulli - 8 Aug 2006 8:59 PM - 4 messages
My problem child: <asp:dropdownlist id="ddlLimit" tabIndex="6" runat="server" EnableViewState="False" CssClass="query">     <asp:ListItem Value="100" Selected="True">100</asp:ListItem>     <asp:ListItem Value="250">250</asp:ListItem> ...
Score password in Windows.System.Forms.TextBox
manjub - 8 Aug 2006 7:07 PM - 2 messages
Hi, I have an application in which user inputs password though a windows form in a text box. Password is stored as regular text in text property. I have the following questions: 1. Should I worry about the password being seen by others by hacking ...
Score checkboxes in query structure
bindurajeesh - 8 Aug 2006 5:34 PM - 3 messages
I have the following in by web form code behind and it says that "operator '&' is not defined for types 'String' and 'System.Web.UI.WebControls.checkbox'.  How do you pass the value of a checkbox to a query string?  The example below was attempting to use a string ...
Score Using generic printer
Jean Paul Mertens - 8 Aug 2006 3:45 PM - 8 messages
Hello, Is there a way to send a string of text to a generic tekst printer under ..NET. Somethings as in the good old days File f = Open("LPT1"); f.Writeline("Blablabla"); The goal is to use an old lineprinter as a log printer printing out each ...
Score Returning an array of an object
David R - 8 Aug 2006 3:20 PM - 3 messages
Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong here?   This will not compile because of line 2, but if I replace with Service.ContactTO[] contacts = null; it will through an exception on line 3. Thanks 1Service.ContactTO cntTO = new Service.ContactTO(); ...
Score Inheritence question
Ron M. Newman - 8 Aug 2006 2:36 PM - 3 messages
Hi Group, Here's the scenario: I have a class A with a virtual method X() I have a class B :deriving from A with an override method X() I have a class C deriving from B From an object of class C, I'd like to access the X method on class A. How ...
Score _asm { int 3 } doesnt work with VS2005 and VS6 on same machine
Dave - 8 Aug 2006 2:28 PM - 6 messages
I have a TSP (Telephony Service Provider) that I've developed with VS6. It's a C/C++ DLL that gets loaded by a svchost and accessed by TAPI based applications.  My problem is that on the Windows XP machine that I have the ...
Score VB only in help topics
Rof - 8 Aug 2006 1:52 PM - 5 messages
I have just upgraded to VS 2005, and I am fed up with being bombarded with Help for C#, C++ and goodness knows what else, despite setting "Language" in the Search options to "Visual Basic". Is there any way to ...
Score How to discover devices on network
stacy@sensorswitch.com - 8 Aug 2006 1:36 PM - 6 messages
I am developing an application that must look out over TCP on an ethernet connection to locate our proprietary devices.  The Web application and the devices are communicating over ethernet with TCP using known IP addresses at present.  We would like to design a method to discover devices in the ...
Score web.config appSettings Store value with & character
mahesh.anjani - 8 Aug 2006 1:26 PM - 3 messages
hi i have stored my connction string in web.config as we do usually. code of web.confing is given below. check the password field contain "&" character. now when i run my application it gives error because value of ConnectionString is breaked ...
Score Help with Formula
Tony - 8 Aug 2006 1:21 PM - 5 messages
I'm trying to create a formula in dot net to achieve the following: Input:         Output: 1                 1               ...
Score Memory Vs non-memory resources
cashdeskmac - 8 Aug 2006 12:54 PM - 6 messages
Hi, can anyone explain the difference between a memory resource and a non-memory resource.  I have been shown an example of error handling for a non-memory resource (accessing a file) but am not sure what the terms refer to. ...
Score .NET and EXCEL
J - 8 Aug 2006 12:29 PM - 3 messages
Is there any sample code for vs2005 and Excel? ...
Score Need carrier Advice
Nishant Giri - 8 Aug 2006 12:21 PM - 6 messages
HI,       I have done B.E in computer science and then get into the Microsoft Technologies from the last three year's i am working on .NET platform. I want to know whether i am on the right track or should i need to do something ...
Score Need an OOP expert for some simple newie questions
Nemisis - 8 Aug 2006 12:19 PM - 5 messages
Hi everyone, I have 2 classes, Company and Contact, a company can have 1 or more contacts.  A contact can only be in one company. I have created a Company class object that contains all the properties for my company.  I have created a CompanyFactory class that has the ...
Score MCPDEA certification
ArvindAcc - 8 Aug 2006 11:11 AM - 3 messages
Hi All, I have cleared MCP in ASP.NET programming and SQl Server and was planning to complete MCAD. But I got news about new exam papers and certifications etc. The existing certifications will no longer be valid in the coming year.So ...
Score distributed development with DOTNET
MPA - 8 Aug 2006 8:24 AM - 2 messages
Hi, We are a small company but with programmers distributed across multiple locations in two countries. We are planning on creating a Web project (ASP.NET Application or ASP.NET Web Service). Is development with the Web Server at one location only a problem in this situation? Has anyone ...
Score cannot open DataBase
H.Frank - 8 Aug 2006 6:26 AM - 4 messages
When I try to connect to Access DataBase I get this on my browser: The Microsoft Jet database engine cannot open the file 'D:\chessleague\db4.mdb'. It is already opened exclusively by another user, or you need permission to view its data. ...
Score Gridview and dynamic size columns with a dataset
BartMan - 7 Aug 2006 7:33 PM - 4 messages
Greetings, I have a gridview which is sitting on a multi view control (witin a view), and it is bound to a dataset which I dynamically apply to the control within asp.net page.  The problem is that I can't seem to resize my dataview's ...
Score Need help with HttpWeb Request - Exception CR before LF
MauRos - 7 Aug 2006 5:08 PM - 2 messages
Hello, I need help using the httpweb request. I am getting an error when trying to read the source code from the following web page: [link] ...
Score Best Practice: Property Usage
MikeG - 7 Aug 2006 4:00 PM - 3 messages
When creating a class library is it wrong or not a 'Best Practice' to reference a property of an object from within a constructor or method of that object? I recall being told not to do this but I really don't ...
Score THE BEST SOLUTION FOR SOLVING YOUR PROBLEM
Henry Jones - 7 Aug 2006 3:53 PM - 5 messages
The best way to solve YOUR problem is to do the following: Fill Bathtub. Make sure your computer is powered up. Throw your computer in the TUB. Jump in. What does this kind of information have to do with PROGRAMMING? ...
Score DirectoryEntry.CopyTo Not Implemented!!
Davie - 7 Aug 2006 8:02 AM - 2 messages
..NET 2.0 I was hoping the CopyTo method would be just what I needed to create a new user in the same container and with the same properties as an existing one. Rather than have to create the user and configure all the properties ...
Score z
Patrick Klug - 7 Aug 2006 7:41 AM - 2 messages
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Score Simple Query Not Executing
Water Cooler v2 - 7 Aug 2006 7:24 AM - 4 messages
Dang! A *simple* query doesn't run on my machine. I wrote a Data Access Layer (DAL) in a dll that I am testing with the help of a console application. Here's the code. I am damn sure that my code is fine. I think my ...
Score Play Windows Mobile 5 Voice Tags via C#
Jake - 7 Aug 2006 5:08 AM - 5 messages
I'd like to programmatically play a Voice Tag associated with a Windows Mobile 5 contact. If anyone has any info on this, that would be great. I'm using VS2005 and C#. I have an IMate SP5 if it helps. ...
Score A Newbie OOP conceptual question
Tony Van - 7 Aug 2006 2:43 AM - 3 messages
I'm slogging my way up the learning curve for VB.net, and I have a conceptual question regarding classes. I have a name and address database and I'm writing a program to display names, phone numbers, that kind of stuff. ...
Score Largest program you have written
Howard - 7 Aug 2006 12:22 AM - 7 messages
Just curious What is the largest program you have written in terms of source code length and complexity? Howard ...
Score Wildcard Strings
Daniel N - 6 Aug 2006 9:23 PM - 10 messages
hWnd = FindWindow("CLASS NAME", *) A string must be where the (*) is. Is there a way of making some kind of wildcard so that function accepts every string sting? ...
Score multi processor issue
Cathy_db - 6 Aug 2006 7:07 PM - 3 messages
Hi, How can I check if in our .net environment the applications are using all 4 of our processors ( 2 CPU's hyperthreaded) The issue is that our test environment with 1 CPU (hyperthreaded) shows better performance then our production environment  which has two ...
Score Enum question...
K. Wilder - 6 Aug 2006 6:57 PM - 4 messages
I need to declare a project level Enum that any procedure in any class can reference so there's continuity with the values. How do I do this? At present, if I declare a Module in a project and want to refer to it in an ...
Score Assembly Dependencies
mehdi_mousavi - 6 Aug 2006 1:45 PM - 3 messages
Hi folks, Is there any tools out there that lists the entire assemblies that a given dot net .dll/.exe file depends on? (Something like Visual Studio 6.0 "Depends"). TIA, Mehdi ...
Score UTF-8 encoding in from and subject lines in internet standard email
Rob Nicholson - 6 Aug 2006 11:22 AM - 4 messages
I wasn't sure where to post this as there doesn't seem to be an obvious group to discuss this. I'm writing my own internet email parser mainly because a) I'm mad and b) I need to understand internet email standards in ...
Score How to understand the role of Service?
dotNeter - 6 Aug 2006 8:48 AM - 7 messages
The services, talked here, are things used in IServiceContainer, IServiceProvider, etc. In my opinion, everything can be a service, and a service is generally used for providing specific features for service consumers, at design time. But, I think the cnsumers must completely know all aspects of ...
Score Need some time functions
Ron Harter - 6 Aug 2006 1:21 AM - 2 messages
I have inherited a project that where I need to convert time form the DataTime format to the old form of seconds since 1/1/70. I can't locate any functionality in the framework (2.0) that even knows about that particular ...
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