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Author
24 Jun 2009 2:59 PM
sam
I have an excel sheet that is edited, updated by two other people as well.
Now in excel only one person can edit at a time which wastes a lot of time.
So I was looking for something that can be edited, updated by multiple people.

ALso I want it to be password protected. Where only myself and one more
person can edit and others will have a view permission only.

Do you know if this is possible in Access? Also in future I want to create
some forms that will help me input the data in database and where certain
fields will be mandatory. the input in these forms will populate the
corresponding cells in the table in access database.

I hope I made it clear.

Thanks in Advance.

Author
24 Jun 2009 3:07 PM
Jerry Whittle
Yes. A well designed Access database can handle 20 people or more at a time.
You may run into some problems if two or more people attempt to modifiy the
same record at the same time.

For your needs, you'll need to implement user-level security which is a lot
of work to do what you want. Note: The new Access 2007 accdb file structure
does not support user-level security. The older .mdb file does. If you can
trust everyone who uses the database to create and edit records, a simple
password protected database is a lot easier.
--
Jerry Whittle, Microsoft Access MVP
Light. Strong. Cheap. Pick two. Keith Bontrager - Bicycle Builder.

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"sam" wrote:

> I have an excel sheet that is edited, updated by two other people as well.
> Now in excel only one person can edit at a time which wastes a lot of time.
> So I was looking for something that can be edited, updated by multiple people.
>
> ALso I want it to be password protected. Where only myself and one more
> person can edit and others will have a view permission only.
>
> Do you know if this is possible in Access? Also in future I want to create
> some forms that will help me input the data in database and where certain
> fields will be mandatory. the input in these forms will populate the
> corresponding cells in the table in access database.
>
> I hope I made it clear.
>
> Thanks in Advance.
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Author
24 Jun 2009 3:25 PM
sam
Thanks a Ton Jerry,

my concern is basically updating the sheet and sharing it with other
ppl(without them having edit permissions)

will splitting the database allow two people edit the sheet at the same time?
will they be updating different tables with different fields once I split
the database?

Thanks in advance

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"Jerry Whittle" wrote:

> Yes. A well designed Access database can handle 20 people or more at a time.
> You may run into some problems if two or more people attempt to modifiy the
> same record at the same time.
>
> For your needs, you'll need to implement user-level security which is a lot
> of work to do what you want. Note: The new Access 2007 accdb file structure
> does not support user-level security. The older .mdb file does. If you can
> trust everyone who uses the database to create and edit records, a simple
> password protected database is a lot easier.
> --
> Jerry Whittle, Microsoft Access MVP
> Light. Strong. Cheap. Pick two. Keith Bontrager - Bicycle Builder.
>
> "sam" wrote:
>
> > I have an excel sheet that is edited, updated by two other people as well.
> > Now in excel only one person can edit at a time which wastes a lot of time.
> > So I was looking for something that can be edited, updated by multiple people.
> >
> > ALso I want it to be password protected. Where only myself and one more
> > person can edit and others will have a view permission only.
> >
> > Do you know if this is possible in Access? Also in future I want to create
> > some forms that will help me input the data in database and where certain
> > fields will be mandatory. the input in these forms will populate the
> > corresponding cells in the table in access database.
> >
> > I hope I made it clear.
> >
> > Thanks in Advance.
Author
24 Jun 2009 3:16 PM
John Spencer MVP
Yes, it everything you want can be done in Access.

You can implement security in a variety of ways.
-- If you want to you can distribute two versions of your application.  One
for the three people that will do data entry and a second version that will
only allow people to see the data (with sorting and filtering capability).
-- Use "security lite" approach where you ask the user to login with a userid
and password that is stored in a table.  This is more of an access control
than security.  When you have the person's identity you can control through
VBA which forms he can see and which things he can do.
-- With Access Security you can create logins that are harder to get around
and use the identity to control which tables, forms, reports, etc can be seen,
written to, edited, deleted, etc.  HOWEVER, implementing Access Security is
very complex and should not be undertaken without a lot of research.

You definitely do want to use forms for input and viewing data.  You use
reports for printing data. Your users should not see the tables or queries
directly, but only through forms and reports.

Mandatory fields are easy and can be controlled by setting the required
property of the field in a table to Yes (True).

Access has a fairly steep learning curve, but it is fairly powerful.

John Spencer
Access MVP 2002-2005, 2007-2009
The Hilltop Institute
University of Maryland Baltimore County

sam wrote:
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> I have an excel sheet that is edited, updated by two other people as well.
> Now in excel only one person can edit at a time which wastes a lot of time.
> So I was looking for something that can be edited, updated by multiple people.
>
> ALso I want it to be password protected. Where only myself and one more
> person can edit and others will have a view permission only.
>
> Do you know if this is possible in Access? Also in future I want to create
> some forms that will help me input the data in database and where certain
> fields will be mandatory. the input in these forms will populate the
> corresponding cells in the table in access database.
>
> I hope I made it clear.
>
> Thanks in Advance.
Author
24 Jun 2009 3:33 PM
sam
Thanks a Lot John,

you said Mandatory fields are easy and can be controlled by setting the
required
property of the field in a table to Yes (True).

How can i do this? Is it done through  Form or the sheet?

Thanks in advance.


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"John Spencer MVP" wrote:

> Yes, it everything you want can be done in Access.
>
> You can implement security in a variety of ways.
> -- If you want to you can distribute two versions of your application.  One
> for the three people that will do data entry and a second version that will
> only allow people to see the data (with sorting and filtering capability).
> -- Use "security lite" approach where you ask the user to login with a userid
> and password that is stored in a table.  This is more of an access control
> than security.  When you have the person's identity you can control through
> VBA which forms he can see and which things he can do.
> -- With Access Security you can create logins that are harder to get around
> and use the identity to control which tables, forms, reports, etc can be seen,
> written to, edited, deleted, etc.  HOWEVER, implementing Access Security is
> very complex and should not be undertaken without a lot of research.
>
> You definitely do want to use forms for input and viewing data.  You use
> reports for printing data. Your users should not see the tables or queries
> directly, but only through forms and reports.
>
> Mandatory fields are easy and can be controlled by setting the required
> property of the field in a table to Yes (True).
>
> Access has a fairly steep learning curve, but it is fairly powerful.
>
> John Spencer
> Access MVP 2002-2005, 2007-2009
> The Hilltop Institute
> University of Maryland Baltimore County
>
> sam wrote:
> > I have an excel sheet that is edited, updated by two other people as well.
> > Now in excel only one person can edit at a time which wastes a lot of time.
> > So I was looking for something that can be edited, updated by multiple people.
> >
> > ALso I want it to be password protected. Where only myself and one more
> > person can edit and others will have a view permission only.
> >
> > Do you know if this is possible in Access? Also in future I want to create
> > some forms that will help me input the data in database and where certain
> > fields will be mandatory. the input in these forms will populate the
> > corresponding cells in the table in access database.
> >
> > I hope I made it clear.
> >
> > Thanks in Advance.
>
Author
24 Jun 2009 4:48 PM
John Spencer MVP
-- Open the table in design view
-- Select the field
-- Set its required property (at the bottom of the window) to Yes
-- Close the table and save the change

Now whenever a record is created or updated the field must get a value.

John Spencer
Access MVP 2002-2005, 2007-2009
The Hilltop Institute
University of Maryland Baltimore County

sam wrote:
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> Thanks a Lot John,
>
> you said Mandatory fields are easy and can be controlled by setting the
> required
> property of the field in a table to Yes (True).
>
> How can i do this? Is it done through  Form or the sheet?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> "John Spencer MVP" wrote:
>
>> Yes, it everything you want can be done in Access.
>>
>> You can implement security in a variety of ways.
>> -- If you want to you can distribute two versions of your application.  One
>> for the three people that will do data entry and a second version that will
>> only allow people to see the data (with sorting and filtering capability).
>> -- Use "security lite" approach where you ask the user to login with a userid
>> and password that is stored in a table.  This is more of an access control
>> than security.  When you have the person's identity you can control through
>> VBA which forms he can see and which things he can do.
>> -- With Access Security you can create logins that are harder to get around
>> and use the identity to control which tables, forms, reports, etc can be seen,
>> written to, edited, deleted, etc.  HOWEVER, implementing Access Security is
>> very complex and should not be undertaken without a lot of research.
>>
>> You definitely do want to use forms for input and viewing data.  You use
>> reports for printing data. Your users should not see the tables or queries
>> directly, but only through forms and reports.
>>
>> Mandatory fields are easy and can be controlled by setting the required
>> property of the field in a table to Yes (True).
>>
>> Access has a fairly steep learning curve, but it is fairly powerful.
>>
>> John Spencer
>> Access MVP 2002-2005, 2007-2009
>> The Hilltop Institute
>> University of Maryland Baltimore County
>>
>> sam wrote:
>>> I have an excel sheet that is edited, updated by two other people as well.
>>> Now in excel only one person can edit at a time which wastes a lot of time.
>>> So I was looking for something that can be edited, updated by multiple people.
>>>
>>> ALso I want it to be password protected. Where only myself and one more
>>> person can edit and others will have a view permission only.
>>>
>>> Do you know if this is possible in Access? Also in future I want to create
>>> some forms that will help me input the data in database and where certain
>>> fields will be mandatory. the input in these forms will populate the
>>> corresponding cells in the table in access database.
>>>
>>> I hope I made it clear.
>>>
>>> Thanks in Advance.

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